I was a very good math student in high school. I was in the national level Olympiad team. Now I'm studying at the best college in my country with really good mathematicians.

I've all almost all of my confidence in the pursuit of finding rigorous proofs in abstract algebra. As a result I no longer have an open to come up with new ideas, worrying that it may not be rigorous enough and hence restricting myself to the usual methods. This was shocking visible to be in a quiz today where i was given a nil-potent element (rm = 0 in a ring structure) and I didn't even see the fact of higher power of r greater than m being equal to 0. This was completely shocking to me as I always had a systemic approach to problems. Also, the terms such as quotient rings haven't given an intuition picture even though my peers get it so easy.

Problems from M.Artin which merely have any logical sophistication with merely a few lines of proof is giving me such a pain. I feel extremely bad when I look up the answer after pondering over it and seeing how trivial it is. While my batchmates, they recite the proof orally. It's even more frustrating when they say it's trivial orally while I can't solve it on paper.

Is my math just no good anymore?

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    $\begingroup$ Quit caffeine and practice meditation. $\endgroup$
    – user117644
    Sep 11, 2014 at 6:19
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    $\begingroup$ @mistermarko I know a great many mathematicians who would be aghast at the idea of not having coffee. $\endgroup$ Sep 11, 2014 at 6:23
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    $\begingroup$ So I've heard, I'm a hypocrite of course. $\endgroup$
    – user117644
    Sep 11, 2014 at 6:25
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    $\begingroup$ coffee + meditation $\endgroup$
    – Rustyn
    Sep 11, 2014 at 6:34
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    $\begingroup$ John, a long time ago I felt in the same situation. I also was going to one of the top colleges in my country; and especially at first, it was disorienting adjusting to the transition from being in top 1% of students and being somewhere within the top 1% of students. Yah, so something in Artin seemed trivial when you peeked at the answer. Next time you're on a bus, think about it - you're probably the only person on that bus who even understands the question being asked, let alone the answer. $\endgroup$
    – Chas Brown
    Sep 11, 2014 at 6:41

2 Answers 2


Who cares about your batchmates and what they can do? Stop comparing yourself to them and focus on the material.

You don't have to compete with anybody but yourself! I encourage you to make mathematics personal. Internalize mathematics in your own way, and continue with math because it gives you joy! Soon enough, you'll be able to recite proofs orally.

Also, try to avoid looking up answers if you can. Study for $45-60$ minutes and then, if you can't figure something out, read a book or watch netflix and come back to it. You have to give your subconscious a chance to suss stuff out.

Right now, you're in a competitive environment. It can feel frustrating when others understand something a lot faster than you do. Try to remind yourself what the frustration can do to you though--it can disrupt the way you perceive your own abilities! Additionally, this frustration can turn into anxiety which can actually inhibit your learning to an uncomfortable degree.

Focus on your basic needs: sleep, diet, exercise, and meditation. You're already on the right track by asking for feedback here. I'm sure you'll make for a wonderful mathematician.

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    $\begingroup$ Thanks a lot for that motivation! I already feel a lot better. Systematic and getting the best out of me is the key. Meditation has to help! Going to start off with tomorrow :) $\endgroup$
    – John
    Sep 11, 2014 at 7:46
  • $\begingroup$ +1 for "You don't have to compete with anybody but yourself!" $\endgroup$
    – Jasser
    Oct 19, 2014 at 9:27

Only one thing will decide how far you go in mathematics, which is how long you stick with it.

Everybody has their blind spots. Everybody has great strengths and greater weaknesses. Everybody knows so little about mathematics, that if they ever fully admitted it they would be humiliated.

There is also not one cause nor one cure for frustration, though it is often a sign that it is time for a break. To take an extreme example: Steve Vai, a virtuoso guitar player, has stressed the importance of taking breaks from the guitar of a year or more.

You don't necessarily need something so extreme, but the point remains: it's okay to get sick of something you love, and it might even be better to see what life is like without it than it is to keep pushing yourself until you hate it.

At the very least, try to look at some of your struggles as opportunities for growth. Everybody, without exception, eventually runs up against their own limitations, and situations where they are no longer the best. Those limitations are not the end of one's career. On the contrary, success comes from reckoning with those limitations.

  • $\begingroup$ Thank you for your advice sir. Really appreciate. $\endgroup$
    – John
    Sep 11, 2014 at 7:44
  • $\begingroup$ As a guitarist and Vai fan, I'm interested in seeing a source for the Steve Vai assertion. $\endgroup$ Sep 11, 2014 at 13:54
  • $\begingroup$ @MichaelEaster I'll try to track one down. I think it was a printed interview. $\endgroup$
    – Slade
    Sep 11, 2014 at 16:01
  • $\begingroup$ @MichaelEaster It's also possible that I'm confusing him with somebody else. I remember it clearly as Vai, but I have some doubt that he has had much time for long breaks... Anyway, I seem to remember the suggestion being something like three years of intense practice, followed by one year of little or no playing. $\endgroup$
    – Slade
    Sep 11, 2014 at 21:20

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