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If $a, b, c$ be distinct reals such that $$a + \frac1b = b + \frac1c = c + \frac1a$$ how do I find the value of $abc$?

The answer says $1$, but I am not sure how to derive it.

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    $\begingroup$ What have you tried? By the way, do you see a simple particular solution for $a$, $b$, $c$? $\endgroup$
    – Shaun Ault
    Aug 31, 2011 at 22:34
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    $\begingroup$ There is a large amount of hidden symmetry in this problem (well beyond the cyclic substitution that takes A to B to C to A). Where did the question come from? Any reference? $\endgroup$
    – zyx
    Sep 5, 2011 at 6:42
  • $\begingroup$ @zyx Interestingly, this was asked in a $2017$ Olympiad. $\endgroup$ Dec 16, 2018 at 17:55

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From the fact that Expressions $1$ and $2$ are equal, we obtain $$a-b=\frac{1}{c}-\frac{1}{b}=\frac{b-c}{bc}.$$ From the fact that Expressions $2$ and $3$ are equal, we obtain $$b-c=\frac{1}{a}-\frac{1}{c}=\frac{c-a}{ca}.$$ From the fact that Expressions $3$ and $1$ are equal, we obtain $$c-a=\frac{1}{b}-\frac{1}{a}=\frac{a-b}{ab}.$$

Multiply the left-hand sides, the right-hand sides. We get $$(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)=\frac{(b-c)(c-a)(a-b)}{(abc)^2}.$$ Since $a$, $b$, and $c$ are distinct, $(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)\ne 0$. We conclude that $(abc)^2=1$. This yields the two possibilities $abc=1$ and $abc=-1$.

In a logical sense we are finished: We have shown that if $(a,b,c)$ is a solution of the system with $a$, $b$, and $c$ distinct, then $abc=\pm 1$.

But it would be nice to show that there are solutions of the desired type. So let's find such a solution, with $abc=1$.

Look for a solution with $a=1$. Then we need $c=1/b$. In order to satisfy our equations, we need $1+1/b=2b$. Beside the useless solution $b=1$, this has the solution $b=-1/2$. We conclude that $$a=1,\quad b=-\frac{1}{2},\quad c=-2$$ is a solution of the desired type, with $abc=1$. By changing all the signs, we find that $$a=-1,\quad b=\frac{1}{2},\quad c=2$$ is a solution with $abc=-1$.

Added: It is easy to see that if two 0f $a$, $b$, $c$ are equal, then they are all equal, giving the parametric family $(t,t,t)$, where $t\ne 0$. Now assume that $abc=\pm 1$. We find all solutions with $abc=1$. The solutions with $abc=-1$ are then obtained by changing all the signs.

Let $a=t$. Our equations will be satisfied if $t+1/b=b+1/c$, where $c=1/bt$. We therefore obtain the equation $t+1/b=b+bt$, which simplifies to $(1+t)b^2 -tb-1=0$. Now we can solve this quadratic equation for $b$, and get $c$ from $tbc=1$. There is undoubtedly a more symmetric way to obtain the complete parametric description of the solutions!

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  • $\begingroup$ This method is exactly the same as that presented in Aryabhata's answer, except for the choice of notation: your $\: a-b = (b-c)/(bc)$ vs. his $\:(a-b)\:A = a\:(b-c)\:$ for $A = abc\:.\:$ But the key point is to exploit the innate symmetry, which is more clearly presented above. $\endgroup$ Sep 1, 2011 at 2:20
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    $\begingroup$ @Bill Dubuque: After I had posted the solution, I noticed that Aryabhata must have posted a solution while I was typing. Wondered whether to delete, decided not to because the line of attack that I used, though essentially identical, is probably more natural from a student point of view. And yes, I did want to pound in the use of symmetry! $\endgroup$ Sep 1, 2011 at 2:56
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Give the common value of $a+1/b$ etc. a name, say $h$. We can now rewrite $a+1/b=h$ to $a=h-1/b$ and similarly $b=h-1/c$ and $c=h-1/a$. Telescoping these expressions into each other gives $$a=\frac{h^2-ah-1}{h^3-ah^2-2h+a}$$ which rearranges to $$(1-h^2)a^2 + (h^3-h)a + 1-h^2 = 0$$ Now because everything is symmetric, $b$ and $c$ must satisfy the same equation, but $a$, $b$ and $c$ were distinct numbers, so they can only be roots in a quadratic polynomial if it is identically zero. So $h^2=1$, which makes all of the coefficients vanish. Thus $h=\pm 1$.

Assuming that $h=1$ we now get $b=\frac{1}{1-a}$ and $c=1-\frac{1}{a}=\frac{a-1}{a}$, hence $abc=-1$. An example is $(a,b,c)=(2,-1,1/2)$.

Negating everything in the $h=1$ case gives $h=-1$ and $abc=1$.

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Let $A = abc$. We can assume $A \ne 0$.

Now the equations can be written as

$a + ac/A = b + ab/A = c + bc/A$

Multiply by $A$ throughout.

$a(A+c) = b(A+a) = c(A+b)$

Subtract first two, last two, first and last to get three equations and multiply those to get an equation in $A$.

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Below I explicitly highlight the symmetry implicit in the answers of Aryabhata and Andre. Let $\rm\,\sigma\,$ be the permutation $\rm\,(a\ b\ c)\,$ acting on polynomials in $\rm\,a,b,c\,$ by cyclically permuting the variables, i.e. $\rm\,\sigma\ f(a,b,c) = f(b,c,a),\ $ e.g. $\rm\ \sigma(a-b) = b-c.\ $ Define the norm by $\rm\ N(g) = g\ \sigma g\ \sigma^2 g.\,$ Note that $\rm\,N(\sigma\, g) = N(g)\,$ since $\rm\,\sigma^3 = 1.\,$ Put $\rm\,f = abc = N(a),\,$ so $\rm\,\sigma\, f\, =\, f.\,$ Put $\rm\,g\, =\, a-b.\,$ Subtracting each pair of the given three equations yields the following equations

$$\begin{eqnarray*} \rm f\ &=&\rm\ a\ \dfrac{b-c}{a-b} &=&\rm\ \ \ a\ \ \ \dfrac{\sigma\, g}{g} \\ \rm f\ &=&\rm\ b\ \dfrac{c-a}{b-c} &=&\rm\ \,\sigma\ a\ \ \dfrac{\sigma^2 g}{\sigma\, g} \\ \rm f\ &=&\rm\ c\ \dfrac{a-b}{c-a} &=&\rm\ \sigma^2 a\ \dfrac{\sigma^3\,g}{\sigma^2g} \end{eqnarray*}$$

Multiplying the above, using $\rm\,\sigma^3g = g,\,$ yields $\rm\,f^{3} = N(a) = f,\,$ so $\rm\,f \ne 0\,$ $\,\Rightarrow\,$ $\rm\,f^{2} = 1.\,$ That is essentially the method employed in said answers. I show that this method amounts to simply taking the norm of the first equation. Notice that the second and third equations result from successively applying $\rm\,\sigma\,$ to the first equation, i.e. the given three equations are equivalent to stating that the first equation is preserved by $\rm\,\sigma\,$ and $\rm\,\sigma^2\,$. So multiplying them all amounts to taking the norm of the first, i.e.

$$\rm f^{3} = N(f) = N\bigg(a\,\dfrac{\sigma g}{g}\bigg) = N(a) = f\ \quad by\ \quad N(\sigma g) = N(g) $$

So, from this viewpoint, the proof that $\rm\,f^{3} = f\,$ is a one-line inference achieved by by taking a norm (that $\rm\,f/a = \sigma\,g/g\,$ has norm $1$ is essentially multiplicative telescopy). This simplicity above results from recognizing and exploiting the innate symmetry in the problem.

Less trivial exploitation of similar symmetries arise in the Galois theory of difference equations and radical extensions (Kummer theory). For one simple example see this answer.

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  • $\begingroup$ Nice answer, bringing out the structure explicitly. $\endgroup$ Sep 1, 2011 at 4:53
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let $a+\frac{1}{b} = b+\frac{1}{c} = c+\frac{1}{a} = k$

$ab + 1 = bk, bc + 1 = ck, ca + 1 = ak \Rightarrow ab=bk-1, bc=ck-1, ca=ak-1$

$abc + c = bck = (ck-1)k = ck^2-k \Rightarrow abc + k=c(k^2-1)$

$abc + a = ack = (ak-1)k = ak^2-k \Rightarrow abc+k =a(k^2-1)$

$abc+b=abk=(bk-1)k=bk^2-k \Rightarrow abc+k=b(k^2-1)$

$c(k^2-1)=a(k^2-1)=b(k^2-1)=abc + k$

$a\neq b \neq c \neq 0 \Rightarrow k^2-1=0 \Rightarrow k^2=1 \Rightarrow k= \pm1$

$abc+k=c(k^2-1)=0 \Rightarrow abc=-k=\pm1$

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I'm not sure how different this is, but here is my version

$a + \frac{1}{b} = b + \frac{1}{c} = c + \frac{1}{a} \quad$ (Note this implies $abc \ne 0$)

$a^2bc + ac = ab^2c + ab = abc^2 + bc$

$a(abc) + ac = b(abc) + ab = c(abc) + bc$

$\quad a(abc) + ac = b(abc) + ab \implies (a-b)abc=a(b-c)$
$$ a=b=c \ne 0 \; \text{ or } \; abc = \dfrac{a(b-c)}{a-b}$$

$\quad a(abc) + ac = c(abc) + bc \implies (a-c)abc = c(b-a)$ $$a=c=b \ne 0 \; \text{ or } \; abc = \dfrac{c(b-a)}{a-c}$$

$\quad b(abc) + ab = c(abc) + bc \implies (b-c)abc=b(c-a)$ $$b=c=a \ne 0 \; \text{ or } \; abc = \dfrac{b(c-a)}{b-c}$$

So, one solution is $\; a=b=c \ne 0$.
But if $a,b,$ and $c$ are distinct and non zero, then

$(abc)^3 = \dfrac{a(b-c)}{a-b} \cdot \dfrac{c(b-a)}{a-c} \cdot \dfrac{b(c-a)}{b-c}$

$(abc)^3 = abc$

$(abc)^2 = 1$

$abc = \pm 1$

$|abc| = 1$

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We can start by expanding out the equations to get

$$a + \frac{1}{b} = b + \frac{1}{c}$$ $$b + \frac{1}{c} = c + \frac{1}{a}$$ $$c + \frac{1}{a} = a + \frac{1}{b}$$.

Putting the fractions on one side, we get $$a-b=\frac{1}{c}-\frac{1}{b}$$$$b-c=\frac{1}{a}-\frac{1}{c}$$$$c-a=\frac{1}{b}-\frac{1}{a}.$$

Moving fractions give us

$$a-b=\frac{b-c}{bc}$$ $$b-c=\frac{c-a}{ac}$$ $$c-a=\frac{b-a}{ab}.$$

Multiplying all three equations, we get

$$(a-b)(b-c)(c-a) = \frac{(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)}{a^2b^2c^2}.$$ Dividing both sides by $(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)$ and multiplying by $a^2b^2c^2$, we get

$$a^2b^2c^2=1$$ and taking the square root from both sides gives us

$$\boxed{abc=\pm 1}.$$

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    $\begingroup$ This is exactly the accepted answer, save for a minor variation at the beginning. $\endgroup$
    – Alex M.
    Sep 29 at 15:36

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