In Quantum mechanics we said that $\langle x'|\psi \rangle = \psi(x)$, where $\langle \phi|\psi \rangle $ is the dot product in $L^2(\mathbb{C})$.

I found out, that this is true, if you set x' to be the delta function $\delta(x)$

Now I also found $\langle p'|\psi \rangle = \tilde{\psi}(p)$, where $\tilde{\psi}$ is the fourier transform of $\psi$. My question is: Does anybody here know what $p'$ could be, so that this expression makes sense?

  • $\begingroup$ p is usually the quantity of movement $\endgroup$ – Thomas Nov 16 '13 at 19:42
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    $\begingroup$ or momentum, as one would call it in the 21th century... $\endgroup$ – Alexander Grothendieck Nov 16 '13 at 19:44
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    $\begingroup$ sorry, not an english speaker here, they existed in my century :) $\endgroup$ – Thomas Nov 16 '13 at 19:47
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    $\begingroup$ no problem Newton $\endgroup$ – Alexander Grothendieck Nov 17 '13 at 1:19

What you want to keep in mind is that when we say a quantum state is represented by a state $\mid \psi \rangle$ in a Hilbert space we haven't yet committed ourselves to a particular Hilbert space.

When a system has a classical analogue we introduce hermitian operators $X$ and $P$ which obey a canonical commutation relation $[X,P]=i\hbar $. These operators have eigenvectors $ \mid x \rangle $ and $ \mid p \rangle $ which form a complete orthonormal basis in our space. They also generally have a continuous spectrum of eigenvalues $x$ and $p$.

So we have, $$X \mid x \rangle = x \mid x \rangle, \qquad P \mid p \rangle = p \mid p \rangle,$$

and any state $ \mid \psi \rangle $ can be written as a linear combination of these eigenvectors,

$$ \mid \psi \rangle = \sum_x \psi(x) \mid x \rangle \quad (\text{discrete spectrum }) $$

$$ \mid \psi \rangle = \int dx \quad \psi(x) \mid x \rangle \quad (\text{continuous spectrum }) $$

Where $\psi(x)$ are the coefficients of the $\mid x \rangle$'s in the expansion of the state $\mid \psi \rangle$. Using the orthonormality of the basis vectors we can conclude that $\psi(x) = \langle x \mid \psi \rangle$ this function of the eigenvalues is usually what we call the wavefunction. Since there is a $1-1$ correspondence between wave functions and the state vectors they represent we often become sloppy and refer to them as if they are the same thing.

Now a reasonable question to ask is what is the wave functions that correspond to the eigenstates of $P$? I'm not going to derive it here but it is possible to show (starting from the canonical commutation relation) that,

$$ \langle x \mid P \psi \rangle = \frac{\hbar }{i} \frac{\partial}{\partial x} \langle x \mid \psi \rangle = \frac{\hbar}{i} \frac{\partial \psi(x)}{\partial x}$$

Using this it is easy to show that the wave function for $\mid p \rangle$ is, $$ p(x) = \langle x \mid p \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi \hbar}} e^{ixp/\hbar}$$

This gives us a way of converting wave functions in the $x$-basis to wave functions in the $p$ basis. Starting with the projection of $\mid \psi \rangle$ onto the $p$-basis we expand $\mid \psi \rangle$ in the $x$-basis and perform the integration,

$$ \psi(p) = \langle p \mid \psi \rangle = \int dx \quad \langle p \mid x \rangle \langle x \mid \psi \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi\hbar}} \int dx \quad e^{-ixp/\hbar} \psi(x) $$

The last line above is obviously the fourier transform of $\psi(x)$.

To answer a question in the comments,

The form of the states $\mid x \rangle $ depends on the basis you represent them in. If I were to represent these states in the $p$-basis they would look like,

$$ x(p) = \langle p \mid x \rangle = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2\pi\hbar}} e^{-ixp/\hbar} $$

If I were to represent them in their own basis I would get dirac delta functions,

$$ x'(x) = \langle x \mid x' \rangle = \delta(x-x') $$

Similarly if I expand the $p$'s in their own basis I would get a delta function,

$$ p'(p) = \langle p \mid p' \rangle = \delta(p-p')$$

Think of the wave functions as the components of a good old arrow vector. You can get different components by using different basis vectors but at the end of the day the vector itself is unchanged. Similarly we can get different looking wave functions by looking at their expansions in different basis sets but at the end of the day they all correspond to the same state vector.

  • $\begingroup$ could you explain how the $|x\rangle$ look like? $\endgroup$ – user66906 Nov 16 '13 at 20:38

In Hilbert Spaces, there is a theorem, called the Riesz-Representation theorem, that states the following:

Theorem: Let $\mathcal{H}$ be a Hilbert Space (over $\mathbb{C}$) (see definition here). Then every continuous linear functional in $\mathcal{H}$ is of the form $x\in\mathcal{H}\mapsto \langle x,\xi\rangle\in\mathbb{C}$ for some (unique) $\xi\in\mathcal{H}$.

This theorem can be used to identify $\mathcal{H}$ with it's dual $\mathcal{H}'$, which consists of the vector space of all linear functionals in $\mathcal{H}$. With the bra-ket notation, the isomorphism is given by $\xi\in\mathcal{H}\mapsto |\xi\rangle\in\mathcal{H}'$, where $|\xi\rangle$ is given by $|\xi\rangle(x)=\langle x,\xi\rangle$ for all $x\in\mathcal{H}$.

Now, whith this identification, you could use the following notation: given $x\in\mathcal{H}$ and $\varphi\in\mathcal{H}'$, you denote $\langle x|\varphi\rangle$ instead of $\varphi(x)$. Then, if $\xi\in\mathcal{H}$ is s.t. $|\xi\rangle=\varphi$, then $\langle x,\xi\rangle=\langle x|\varphi\rangle$ for every $x\in\mathcal{H}$.

The usual way to study quantum mechanics is in (appropriate) Hilbert Spaces. The structure is given by either vectors or linear functionals: see here. Using bra-ket notation, you can analyse all those in the same space, which can simplify lots of reasonings.

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    $\begingroup$ You should use \langle and \rangle in place of < and >, respectively. $\endgroup$ – Cameron Williams Nov 16 '13 at 20:31
  • $\begingroup$ sorry, but $\psi$ is en element of the hilbert space not its dual space or am I missing something? $\endgroup$ – user66906 Nov 16 '13 at 20:40

See http://physics.gu.se/~klavs/FYP310/braket.pdf

the wavefunction in momentum space is the Fourier transform of the wavefunction in coordinate space

I didn't see the fourier thing that often. I remember mostly using "bra" for horizontal vector, and "ket" for vertical vector, and I don't know why they chose that naming. (simple vector transposition)

  • $\begingroup$ well honestly, this notation is not meaningful in this case $p:\psi \mapsto -i\hbar \partial_x \psi$ and $x: \psi \mapsto x\psi$. But in that case, this notation in your article would not work. How does he deduce $\langle x |\psi \rangle =\psi(x)$? $\endgroup$ – user66906 Nov 16 '13 at 19:50

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