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My proof is very different from my reference, hence I am wondering is I got this right?

Apparently, $F$ is continuous, and the identity matrix is closed. Now we want to show that the preimage of continuous function on closed set is closed.

Let $D$ be a closed set, Consider a sequence $x_n \to x_0$ in which $x_n \in f^{-1}(D)$, and we will show that $x_0 \in f^{-1}(D)$.

Since $f$ is continuous, we have a convergent sequence $$\lim_{n\to \infty} f(x_n) = f(x_0) = y.$$

But we know $y$ is in the range, hence, $x_0$ is in the domain. So the preimage is also closed since it contains all the limit points.

Thank you.

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    $\begingroup$ Your last sentence needs to be rephrased. $y$ must be in $D$ (since $D$ is closed and each $f(x_n)\in D$); thus $x_0$ is in $f^{-1}(D)$. $\endgroup$ Jul 7, 2013 at 1:33
  • $\begingroup$ Thanks @DavidMitra - that indeed is what I intended. $\endgroup$ Jul 7, 2013 at 1:35
  • $\begingroup$ would you add the reference for your reference? $\endgroup$ Sep 11, 2018 at 23:09

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Yes, it looks right. Alternatively, given a continuous map $f: X \to Y$, if $D \subseteq Y$ is closed, then $X \setminus f^{-1}(D) = f^{-1}(Y \setminus D)$ is open, so $f^{-1}(D)$ is closed.

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    $\begingroup$ However, why you can make the assertion that $X \setminus f^{-1}(D) = f^{-1}(Y \setminus D)$? $\endgroup$ Jul 7, 2013 at 2:01
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    $\begingroup$ @Jellyfish Just do an element chase to prove that they're equal. It has nothing to do with topology. $\endgroup$
    – Ink
    Jul 7, 2013 at 2:09
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    $\begingroup$ $X=f^{-1}(Y)$ requires $f$ to be a total function. $\endgroup$
    – Witiko
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    $\begingroup$ Would you please add some reference on this? $\endgroup$ Sep 11, 2018 at 23:08
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    $\begingroup$ That doesn't seem necessary, as generally the definition of a function includes totality. $\endgroup$
    – Not Legato
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Yes, your proof is correct, but since you are using sequences this works on metric spaces, not on topological ones.

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  • $\begingroup$ This answer interests me. If I want to work on topological ones, how should I do? Does the discussion on metric spaces not be included in the topological space? $\endgroup$ Aug 4, 2016 at 20:50
  • $\begingroup$ @sleevechen I think you probably need the topological space to be Hausdorff $\endgroup$ Mar 23, 2020 at 18:40
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Let me add an analogous approach that works for topological spaces. We need to introduce an additional concept that is basically a generalisation of sequences for topological spaces.

Let $S$ be a directed set (reflexive, transitive and any pair of elements has a upper bound) and let $X$ be a topological space. Then a net is a function $x: S \rightarrow X$. We often use the notation $x_{\alpha}$ instead of $x(\alpha)$ for evaluation to mirror the notation used for sequences. And we say that a net converges to a point $x \in X$ when for all neighbourhoods of $x$ $N_{x}$ there exists an $\alpha_{0}$ such that

$$\left \{ x_{\alpha}:\alpha \geq \alpha_{0} \right \} \subset N_{x}.$$

We denote this fact by $x_{\alpha} \rightarrow x$.

Using this we can characterise closed set for general topological spaces in a "sequential manner". Let's compare the two characterisations that may be used:

  • In a first countable space (every metric space is first countable), $A$ is closed iff for every sequence $(x_{n}) \subset A:x_{n} \rightarrow x$ we have $x \in A$.
  • In a topological space (no additional separation assumptions are needed), $A$ is closed iff for every net $(x_{\alpha}) \subset A:x_{\alpha} \rightarrow x$ we have $x \in A$.

Note that we also have a theorem for nets that states that we can interchange a continuous function and the limiting operation. Thus allowing us to do exactly (notation wise) what 1LiterTears did in the initial post (consider the same setup, just replace sequence with net):

$$\text{lim}f(x_{\alpha}) = f(\text{lim}x_{\alpha})=f(x).$$

This of course allows us to also get the "same result" if we replace sequence by net in the initial statement.

In short, nets are a great way to move from first countable spaces to general topological spaces while still being able to recycle some of the "standard arguments" from analysis.

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