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In the problem:

Eliminate $\theta$ from the system of equations. $$x\sin\theta-y\cos\theta=-\sin4\theta$$ $$x\cos\theta+y\sin\theta=\frac52-\frac32\cos4\theta$$

it is stated in a previous answer that the resultant is

$$x^{10}+5 x^8 y^2+10 x^6 x^4 + 10 x^4 y^6+5 x^2 y^8+y^{10}-705 x^8+12180 x^6 y^2 -24230 x^4 y^4+12180 x^2 y^6-705 y^8+122560 x^6-112320 x^4 y^2 -112320 x^2 y^4 +122560 y^6+599040 x^4-1361920 x^2 y^2 +599040 y^4+327680 x^2+327680 y^2-1048576=0$$

(generated via Mathematica)

which ultimately turned out to be

$$\boldsymbol{(x+y)^{2/5}+(x-y)^{2/5}=2}$$

that was accomplished by the parametrization, $$x=\cos(\theta)\,(5-4\cos^4(\theta)),$$ $$y=\sin(\theta)\,(5-4\sin^4(\theta)).$$

That represents the cartesian equation of the evolute of an astroid.(?)

With the victory over that problem (thanks to @Claude Leibovici), I was attracted by another similar problem: Eliminate $\theta$ from $4x=5\cos\theta -\cos 5\theta$ and $4y=5\sin\theta -\sin 5\theta$, where the answer is the equation of an epicycloid.

In that question, one can find that $$x=\cos^3(\theta)\,(5-4\cos^2(\theta))$$ $$y=\sin^3(\theta)\,(5-4\sin^2(\theta))$$

which seems almost similar to the aforementioned approach.

Also as mentioned in one answer, the eliminant is $$-81 - 45 x^2 + 365 x^4 - 15 x^6 - 480 x^8 + 256 x^{10} - 45 y^2 - 2395 x^2 y^2 - 45 x^4 y^2 - 1920 x^6 y^2 + 1280 x^8 y^2 + 365 y^4 - 45 x^2 y^4 - 2880 x^4 y^4 + 2560 x^6 y^4 - 15 y^6 - 1920 x^2 y^6 + 2560 x^4 y^6 - 480 y^8 + 1280 x^2 y^8 + 256 y^{10}=0$$

(generated via Wolfram|Alpha)

So because of the similarity, there may be a neat solution as before.

I tried plugging some possible equations in Wolfram|Alpha and Desmos graphing calculator, seeking for a hint. Yet, I haven't found the exit.

Question. Can there be a nice equation for this curve?


If it helps, here's a table showing the coefficients of each term of each polynomial (for the ease of comparison).

$(x+y)^{2/5}+(x-y)^{2/5}=2$ unknown
$x^{10},y^{10}$ 1 256
$x^8,y^8$ -705 -480
$x^6,y^6$ 122560 -15
$x^4,y^4$ 599040 365
$x^2,y^2$ 327680 -45
$x^8y^2,x^2y^8$ 5 1280
$x^6y^4,x^4y^6$ 10 2560
$x^6y^2,x^2y^6$ 12108 -1920
$x^4y^2,x^2y^4$ -112320 -45
$x^2y^2$ -1361920 -2395
$x^4y^4$ -24230 -2880
constant -1048576 -81

Curves:

epicycloid&hypocycloid

The red curve is the hypocycloid and the other is the epicycloid.

The symmetry of these curves is probably implying that they have well formed equations too.

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If we have $$x=\cos^3(\theta)\,(5-4\cos^2(\theta))$$ $$y=\sin^3(\theta)\,(5-4\sin^2(\theta))$$ then, using $S=(x^2+y^2)$ $$S=\frac{1}{8} (13-5 \cos (4 \theta))\implies \theta_\pm=\pm\frac 14 \cos ^{-1}\left(\frac{13-8S}{5} \right)$$

What can you do with this ?

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  • $\begingroup$ I still don't see what to do with the last result. $\endgroup$
    – ACB
    Mar 30 at 5:19
  • $\begingroup$ @ACB. Me neither ! $\endgroup$ Mar 30 at 5:45

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