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I am wondering how I would apply Bayes rule to expand an expression with multiple variables on either side of the conditioning bar.

In another forum post, for example, I read that you could expand $P(a,z \mid b)$ using Bayes rule like this (see Summing over conditional probabilities): $$P( a,z \mid b) = P(a \mid z,b) P(z \mid b)$$

However, directly using Bayes rule to expand $P(a,z \mid b)$ doesn't seem to be the right way to start out:

$$P(a,z\mid b) = { P(b\mid a,z)P(a,z) \over P(a)}$$

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  • $\begingroup$ The first equation is not Bayes' rule, it's just the definition of conditional probability. You don't need Bayes' rule at all, in fact, here. In your second equation, $P(a)$ should be $P(b)$ in the denominator. $\endgroup$ – Kirill Jun 1 '13 at 22:16
  • $\begingroup$ aiqus.com/forum/questions/5627/… $\endgroup$ – Ankit Feb 10 '17 at 12:05
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Note that you didn't apply Bayes' Rule correctly; Bayes' Rule says that:

$$P(X|Y)={P(Y|X)P(X) \over P(Y)}$$

so your denominator should have actually been $P(b)$. Instead, I will use the definition of conditional probability and multiplication rule (which together imply Bayes' Rule):

\begin{array}{cc} P(X|Y) =\dfrac{P(X,Y)}{P(Y)} & (1)\\ P(X)P(Y|X) =P(X,Y)=P(Y)P(X|Y) & (2) \end{array}

Thus, observe that: $$ \begin{array}{r@{}ll} P( a,z \mid b) &= \dfrac{P(a,z,b)}{P(b)} & \text{by (1), where } X=a,z \text{ and } Y=b\\ &= \dfrac{P(z,b)P(a \mid z,b)}{P(b)} &\text{by (2), where } X=a \text{ and } Y=z,b\\ &= \dfrac{P(b)P(z \mid b)P(a \mid z,b)}{P(b)} &\text{by (2), where } X=z \text{ and } Y=b\\ &= P(z \mid b)P(a \mid z,b) \\ &= P(a \mid z,b) P(z \mid b) \\ \end{array} $$ as desired.

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FYI, using the chain rule, P(a,z,b) = P(a|z,b)*P(z|b)*P(b)

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    $\begingroup$ It should be P(a,z|b) $\endgroup$ – Babai Nov 26 '14 at 9:58
  • $\begingroup$ Plus, $P(a,z,b)=P(a,z|b) P(b)\quad\equiv \quad P(a|z,b)P(z,b)$. $\endgroup$ – nyxee Feb 21 '17 at 2:42

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