# When does it hold that $\int_{0}^{x} fg=\left(\int_{0}^{x} f\right)\left(\int_0^x g\right)$

I was wondering when it held that

$$\int\limits_0^x fg=\left(\int\limits_0^xf\right)\left(\int\limits_0^xg\right)$$

Let

$$P:= x \mapsto \int\limits_0^x fg$$ $$F:= x \mapsto \int\limits_0^x f$$ $$G:= x \mapsto \int\limits_0^x g$$

The equality becomes $$P=FG$$

Obviously $f\equiv 0$ or $g\equiv 0$ are solutions.

But are there other solutions?

If you search for solutions of the form

$$f(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{+\infty} a_nx^n$$ $$g(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{+\infty} b_nx^n$$

You get

$$fg(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{+\infty} c_nx^n$$ $$P(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{+\infty}C_nx^n$$ $$F=\sum_{n=0}^{+\infty} A_n x^n$$ $$G=\sum_{n=0}^{+\infty} B_n x^n$$ $$FG(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{+\infty} D_n x^n$$

where

$$\forall n \in \Bbb N, c_n=\sum_{k=0}^na_kb_{n-k}$$ $$\forall n \in \Bbb N^*, C_{n} = \cfrac{c_{n-1}}{n} = \cfrac{1}{n}\left(\sum_{k=0}^{n-1}a_kb_{n-k-1}\right)\text{ and } C_0 = 0$$ $$\forall n \in \Bbb N^*, A_{n} = \cfrac{a_{n-1}}{n}\text{ and } A_0 = 0$$ $$\forall n \in \Bbb N^*, B_{n} = \cfrac{b_{n-1}}{n}\text{ and } B_0 = 0$$ $$\forall n \in \Bbb N, D_{n} = \sum_{k=0}^nA_kB_{n-k}=\sum_{k=1}^{n-1}A_kB_{n-k}=\sum_{k=1}^{n-1}\cfrac{a_{k-1}}{k}\cfrac{b_{n-k-1}}{n-k}$$

And the equality becomes

$$\forall n \in \Bbb N, C_n=D_n$$

We always have that $$C_0=0=D_0$$

But we also have $$0=D_1=C_1=a_0b_0$$. Since the problem is symmetric in $f$ and $g$ and hence in $a_n$ and $b_n$, we can assume WLOG that $a_0=0$.

Which gives $$C_{n} = \cfrac{1}{n}\left(\sum_{k=1}^{n-1}a_kb_{n-k-1}\right)$$

So then the equality becomes

$$\forall n\in \Bbb N, \cfrac{1}{n}\left(\sum_{k=1}^{n-1}a_kb_{n-k-1}\right)=\sum_{k=1}^{n-1}\cfrac{a_{k-1}}{k}\cfrac{b_{n-k-1}}{n-k}$$

And then I'm not sure what I should do...

And I'd also like to know if there are solutions that aren't of this form.

• It's (more or less) the same as looking for solution of $(FG)'=F'G'$. May 4, 2013 at 11:47
• Should there not be a '$dx$' after the integrals? Is it shorthand or more general notation?
– Meow
May 4, 2013 at 12:25
• Well $\int\limits_a^bf = \int\limits_a^bf(t)dt$. It's just a shorthand. May 4, 2013 at 12:26

For analytic functions, as Ma Ming has pointed out, only the trivial solution is possible. However, there are other functions that work to solve the problem, such as ones based around requiring that, at any point, one of the two integrals on the left must be zero. As such, this pair of continuous functions will satisfy the integral relation:

$$f(x)=\begin{cases}\sin(x)&0<x<2\pi\\0&\text{otherwise}\end{cases}\\ g(x)=\begin{cases}x-2\pi&x>2\pi\\0&\text{otherwise}\end{cases}$$ This works because $f(x)g(x)=0$ and, for $x\leq2$, $\int_0^x g(x)dx = 0$ and $\int_0^x f(x)g(x)dx = 0$, while for $x>2$, $\int_0^x f(x)dx = 0$ and $\int_0^x f(x)g(x)dx = 0$.

EDIT: Indeed, one can construct everywhere-smooth functions that satisfy the integral relation. Consider the function: $$k(x)=\begin{cases}e^{-\frac{1}{x(1-x)}}&0<x<1\\0&\text{otherwise}\end{cases}$$ Now, $k(x)$ is everywhere-smooth, infinitely-differentiable at every point. We can use this function to construct some interesting functions satisfying the integral relation. The first thing to note is that $$\int_0^2 k(x-1)-k(x)dx=0$$ Now, if we let $\bar x = x-4\lfloor x/4\rfloor$, and take $$f(x)=\left[k(\bar x-1)-k(\bar x)\right]\times A\\ g(x)=\left[k(\bar x-3)-k(\bar x-2)\right]\times B$$ where $A$ and $B$ are constants, then we have two smooth functions, neither of which is zero on an interval larger than 2, that satisfy the integral relation. More complicated smooth functions can also be created on this basis.

• What are $A$ and $B$? And I don't get how your last two functions can be smooth since you use ceil and since they are in $k$, I don't see how both ceil you somehow concel each other. May 5, 2013 at 8:33
• $A$ and $B$ are constants. Sorry, I see that they can be read as functions, and that's not the intent - I'll move them to the end, for clarification. The floor function (not ceiling function) has its non-smoothness only where $k(x)$ is zero. Basically, if you look at $x-4\lfloor x/4\rfloor$, it's smooth between 0 and 4, which is where $k(x)$ is non-zero. It might also help if I alter the bracketing to make it a bit more readable. Changes will be made in a moment. May 5, 2013 at 12:45
• Ok I think I got it. Thanks :) May 5, 2013 at 12:59

Differentiating we get $fg=Fg+Gf$, or $Fg=f(g-G)=F'(g-G)$, or $\frac{F'}{F}=\frac{g}{g-G}$, so $$F=\pm C\exp \int \frac{g}{g-G}.$$ Now insert possible $G$ to see what happens really. As the comment below pointed, $F(0)=0$, so $C=0$, there is no non-trivial solution...

• Can $F(0)=0$ for a solution of this form? [$F(0)=0$ from the definition of $F$] It would seem, because of the exp, that it would require $C=0$, and thus imply $F$ must be the zero function. May 4, 2013 at 12:04
• I think you meant "no non-trivial solution" instead of "no trivial solution". May 4, 2013 at 12:45
• I feel I should point out that $$f(x)=\begin{cases}1&x\in\mathbb{Q}\\0&\text{otherwise}\end{cases} \qquad g(x)=\begin{cases}1&x\pi\in\mathbb{Q}\\0&\text{otherwise}\end{cases}$$ is also a solution. May 4, 2013 at 14:15
• Indeed, any pair of functions for which one is non-zero only on a countable subset of the reals will form a solution, including $f(x)$ as given in my previous comment and $g(x)=1$. May 4, 2013 at 14:35