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When reading another post, I was wondering about the definition of existence of expectation of a random variable.

  1. From Kai Lai Chung,

    We say a random variable $X$ has a finite or infinite expectation (or expected value) according as $E(X)$ is a finite number or not. In the expected case we shall say that the expectation of X does not exist.

    I was wondering what it means by "the expected case" in the last sentence? Is this generally regarded as the meaning of non-existence of expectation?

  2. From Wikipedia:

    Let X be a discrete random variable. Then the expected value of this random variable is the infinite sum $$\operatorname{E}[X] = \sum_{i=1}^\infty x_i\, p_i, $$ provided that this series converges absolutely (that is, the sum must remain finite if we were to replace all $x_i$'s with their absolute values). If this series does not converge absolutely, we say that the expected value of $X$ does not exist.

    I was wondering

    • if the meaning of nonexistence of expectation here is consistence with the one by Kai Lai Chung,
    • if the meaning of nonexistence of expectation here is consistence with the nonexistence of Lebesgue integral in Rudin's book where he says Legesgue integral of a real-valued
      Boreal-measurable function does not exist if and only if the integrals of the positive part and of the negative part are both infinite, which allow the integral to exist when it is infinite.
    • if the expectation is infinite, then the expectation is regarded as nonexistence?
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  • $\begingroup$ Wikipedia's definition seems better - probably none of the nice theorems hold if the integral defining the expectation is only conditionally convergent. $\endgroup$ Apr 9, 2011 at 21:33
  • $\begingroup$ @Yuval: Thanks! For example, what kinds of nice theorems? $\endgroup$
    – Tim
    Apr 9, 2011 at 21:38
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    $\begingroup$ I would guess that "the expected case" is a typo, where it should be "the infinite case" or "the second case". $\endgroup$
    – GeoffDS
    Apr 9, 2011 at 23:02
  • $\begingroup$ Probably the laws of large numbers. $\endgroup$ Apr 9, 2011 at 23:38
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    $\begingroup$ @Numth: I think it's Chung trying to be witty: "the expected case" meaning "the one you think it is", so as to get the pun on "expected". $\endgroup$ Apr 10, 2011 at 12:48

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With usual notation, decompose $X$ as $X=X^+ - X^-$ (also note that $|X|=X^+ + X^-$). $X$ is said to have finite expectation (or to be integrable) if both ${\rm E}(X^+)$ and ${\rm E}(X^-)$ are finite. In this case ${\rm E}(X) = {\rm E}(X^+) - {\rm E}(X^-)$. Moreover, if ${\rm E}(X^+) = +\infty$ (respectively, ${\rm E}(X^-) = +\infty$) and ${\rm E}(X^-)<\infty$ (respectively, ${\rm E}(X^+)<\infty$), then ${\rm E}(X) = +\infty$ (respectively, ${\rm E}(X) = -\infty$). So, $X$ is allowed to have infinite expectation.

Whenever ${\rm E}(X)$ exists (finite or infinite), the strong law of large numbers holds. That is, if $X_1,X_2,\ldots$ is a sequence of i.i.d. random variables with finite or infinite expectation, letting $S_n = X_1+\cdots + X_n$, it holds $n^{-1}S_n \to {\rm E}(X_1)$ almost surely. The infinite expectation case follows from the finite case by the monotone convergence theorem.

If, on the other hand, ${\rm E}(X^+) = +\infty $ and ${\rm E}(X^-) = +\infty $, then $X$ does not admit an expectation. In this case, must of the following must occur (a result by Kesten, see Theorem 1 in the paper The strong law of large numbers when the mean is undefined, by K. Bruce Erickson): 1) Almost surely, $n^{-1}S_n \to +\infty$; 2) Almost surely, $n^{-1}S_n \to -\infty$; 3) Almost surely, $\lim \sup n^{ - 1} S_n = + \infty$ and $\lim \inf n^{ - 1} S_n = - \infty$.

EDIT: Since you mentioned the recent post "Are there any random variables so that ${\rm E}[X]$ and ${\rm E}[Y]$ exist but ${\rm E}[XY]$ doesn't?", it is worth stressing the difference between "$X$ has expectation" and "$X$ is integrable". By definition, $X$ is integrable if $|X|$ has finite expectation (recall that $|X|=X^+ + X^-$). So, for example, the random variable $X=1/U$, where $U \sim {\rm uniform}(0,1)$, is not integrable, yet has (infinite) expectation (indeed, $\int_0^1 {x^{ - 1} \,{\rm d}x} = \infty $). Further, it is worth noting the following. A random variable $X$ is integrable (i.e., ${\rm E}|X|<\infty$) if and only if $$ \int_\Omega {|X|\,{\rm dP}} = \int_{ - \infty }^\infty {|x|\,{\rm d}F(x)} < \infty . $$ A random variable has expectation if and only if $$ \int_\Omega {X^ + \,{\rm dP}} = \int_{ - \infty }^\infty {\max \{ x,0\} \,{\rm d}F(x)} = \int_0^\infty {x\,{\rm d}F(x)} < \infty $$ or $$ \int_\Omega {X^ - \,{\rm dP}} = \int_{ - \infty }^\infty {-\min \{ x,0\} \,{\rm d}F(x)} = \int_{ - \infty }^0 {|x|\,{\rm d}F(x)} < \infty. $$ In any of these cases, the expectation of $X$ is given by $$ {\rm E}(X) = \int_0^\infty {x\,{\rm d}F(x)} - \int_{ - \infty }^0 {|x|\,{\rm d}F(x)} \in [-\infty,\infty]. $$ Finally, $X$ does not admit an expectation if and only if both $\int_\Omega {X^ + \,{\rm dP}} = \int_0^\infty {x\,{\rm d}F(x)}$ and $\int_\Omega {X^ - \,{\rm dP}} = \int_{ - \infty }^0 {|x|\,{\rm d}F(x)} $ are infinite. Thus, for example, a Cauchy random variable with density function $f(x) = \frac{1}{{\pi (1 + x^2 )}}$, $x \in \mathbb{R}$, though symmetric, does not admit an expectation, since both $\int_0^\infty {xf(x)\,{\rm d}x}$ and $\int_{ - \infty }^0 {|x|f(x)\,{\rm d}x}$ are infinite.

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  • $\begingroup$ In the last paragraph, the $X_i$ (in $S_n$) are supposed to be distributed as $X$, of course. $\endgroup$
    – Shai Covo
    Apr 10, 2011 at 9:10
  • $\begingroup$ So, the strong law of large numbers justifies the common definition, where $X$ is allowed to have infinite expectation. Note the distinction between "has infinite expectation" and "does not admit an expectation". $\endgroup$
    – Shai Covo
    Apr 10, 2011 at 9:26
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As Numth says, the expected case looks like a typo. I suspect that the original draft tried to say the excepted case, referring to the earlier "Unless both $E[X^{+}]$ and $E[X^{-}]$ are $+\infty, \ldots$".

So Kai Lai Chung is prepared to treat infinite expectations as existing while the current Wikipedia definition does not. An example might be the St Petersburg game. In that article Wikipedia says "the expected win for the player of this game, at least in its idealized form, in which the casino has unlimited resources, is an infinite amount of money".

Chung's definition is the same as Rudin's. Any expectation they say does not exist does not exist in Wikipedia's definition either: an example would be a discrete approximation to the Cauchy distribution. As Chung and Rubin do accept some infinite expectations, some other statements would need to be qualified, such as the expectation of the sum of a finite number of random variables being the sum of the expectations of the random variables; Wikipedia's definition avoids this issue.

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