# How do you approach a logarithm question with absolute value at its base?

So I'm a third year high school student and I'm stuck at this question. How do you approach this logarithm to get the domain of x?

$$\log_{|1-x|}(x+5) > 2$$

The answer is $-1 < x < 0$ and $2 < x < 4$

Also, how do you graph the logarithm function with an absolute value? I tried desmos but it doesnt seem to allow adding absolute value in the log base. Thank you very much.

• I don't see anything when I click for the image. Please type the formula using MathJax – saulspatz Apr 17 '18 at 15:53
• "how do you graph the logarithm function with an absolute value?" That's not the problem $\log_{|5|} a$ and $\log_{|-5|} a$ and $\log_5 a$ are all the same. The real question how to you graph a function of a logarithm with a variable in the base. The answer is you don't. – fleablood Apr 17 '18 at 15:57
• to find domain you need to solve $x+5>0$, $|1-x|\ne 0$, $|x-1|\ne 1$ – Vasya Apr 17 '18 at 16:01

$$\log_{|1-x|}(x+5) = \frac{\log(x+5)}{\log|1-x|}> 2$$

Firstly $x + 5 > 0$ and $\log|1-x| \ne 0$, that is $x > -5$ and $x \ne 1$

Now if $\log|1-x| > 0$, that is $x < 0$ or $x > 2$, you get: $$\log(x+5) > 2\log|1-x|$$ $$x+5 > (1-x)^2, -1 < x < 4$$ that is: $-1 < x < 0$ or $2 < x < 4$

If $\log|1-x| < 0$, that is $0 < x < 2$, you get: $$x+5 < (1-x)^2$$ No solution in this case

By consider all above, you get: $-1 < x < 0$ or $2 < x < 4$

For $x>1$ we get $$\frac{\log(x+5)}{\log(x-1)}>2$$ And for $$-5<x<1$$ we get $$\frac{\log(x+5)}{\log(1-x)}>2$$ to solve.

We need the base $|1-x|> 0$ and $|1-x|\ne 1$ .

When $0<|1-x|<1$, i.e. $0<x<1$ or $1<x<2$, the logarithm is strictly decreasing and hence

\begin{align*} x+5&<|1-x|^2\\ x+5&<1-2x+x^2\\ x^2-3x-4&>0\\ x<-1 &\textrm{ or }x>4 \end{align*} and does not ssatisfy the condition $0<|1-x|<1$. No solution in this case.

When $|1-x|>1$, i.e. $x<0$ or $x>2$, the logarithm is strictly increasing and hence

\begin{align*} x+5&>|1-x|^2\\ x+5&>1-2x+x^2\\ x^2-3x-4&<0\\ -1<x&<4 \end{align*} Combining with the condition $|1-x|>1$, we have $-1<x<0$ or $2<x<4$.

$$f(x) = \log_{|1-x|}(x+5) = \dfrac{\log(x+5)}{\log(|1-x|)}$$

First we note that the domain of $\log(x+5)$ is $(-5, \infty)$.

Since $|1-x|=0$ when x = 1. We must remove $x=1$ from the domain of $f(x)$.

Since $\log |1-x| = 0$ for $x=0$ and $x=2$, we must remove $x=0$ and $x=2$ from the domain of $f(x)$.

So the domain of $f(x)$ is $$(-5, 0) \cup (0,1) \cup (1,2) \cup (2, \infty)$$

Note, we could make $f(x)$ continuous at $x=1$ by defining $f(1)=0$.

Everyone has already done the math for you. But, from the graph, you can see that the solution set is $(-1,0) \cup (2,4)$.