Please let me ask a theoretical question. According to derivative definition, in accelerating motion (first) derivative at moment t1 is the limit of the function (constructed from position's function) for variable's limit t1. Then is it axiom that this function's limit is the speed at t1? Regards.


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  • $\begingroup$ Instantaneous acceleration is defined as the derivative of velocity. $\endgroup$ – Mauro ALLEGRANZA Apr 13 '18 at 8:13
  • $\begingroup$ @ Mauro ALLEGRANZA, I mean Constant translational acceleration in a straight line (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/…) case [2]. Regards. $\endgroup$ – George Theodosiou Apr 13 '18 at 8:40
  • $\begingroup$ velocity is defined as ratio of space and time and acceleration is dedined as ratio of velocity and time. When we consider them all function of time, we apply the rule of the calculus, and thus we can apply limits. $\endgroup$ – Mauro ALLEGRANZA Apr 13 '18 at 9:02
  • $\begingroup$ @ Mauro ALLEGRANZA, Indeed velocity is found by taking the derivative of the position function: v(t) = x'(t). Regards. $\endgroup$ – George Theodosiou Apr 13 '18 at 9:40
  • $\begingroup$ @ Cameron Williams, Hans Lundmark, Mauro ALLEGRANZA, Shailesh, Brian Borchers, I'm not in need, just asked that question for get know whether it is axiom. We accept that this limit (first derivative) is the speed at t1, but it is only limit by condition t never gets value t1, otherwise denominator becomes zero. What then is the speed at t1 and how we know that? $\endgroup$ – George Theodosiou Apr 13 '18 at 14:29

I think you are mixing up, somehow, axioms, and definitions.

On an other hand, you are also mixing the real world and the/a mathematical representation of the real world.

We Define Speed function as being the derivative of the Motion function, taken into consideration that we suppose, by default, in Newtownian mechanics, that the Motion function can always be derived, by the way it is defined...

In an other framework of representation of the real world, for instance Quantum Physics, such notion as Motion and Speed are not defined the same way, and it becomes more difficult to go from one to the other...

  • $\begingroup$ @ Martigan, I mean definition in Newtonian mechanics. Regards. $\endgroup$ – George Theodosiou Apr 13 '18 at 8:46

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