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The intersection between the cylinder $x^2+y^2=1$ and the plane $z=y+3$ forms an ellipse. I want to find its semiaxis.

I have that $$1-x^2-y^2=y+3 \Leftrightarrow x^2+y^2-y=4.$$

completing square of $y^2-y$ I get

$$x^2+\left(y-\frac{1}{2}\right)^2-\frac{1}{4}=4\Leftrightarrow x^2\left(y-\frac{1}{2}\right)^2=\frac{17}{4}.$$

And this doesn't make sense. The answer is $a=1$ and $b=\sqrt{2}.$

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  • $\begingroup$ I do not understand why $1-x^2-y^2=y+3$ $\endgroup$
    – Kroki
    Mar 9, 2018 at 16:39
  • $\begingroup$ If $1-x^2-y^2=y+3$ then $x^2+y^2+y=-2$ and I am not sure why your cylinder is in the $z=0$ plane. You should have a relation for the plane in $x, y, z$ form which you substitute for $z$ into the cylinder. $\endgroup$
    – user284001
    Mar 9, 2018 at 16:39
  • $\begingroup$ In the first equation that you have written, you have written $1-x^2-y^2 = y+3$ here to are considering that z = 0 $\endgroup$ Mar 9, 2018 at 16:40
  • $\begingroup$ So any suggestions on how to actually solve the problem? The problem is exactly copied from the book and I've checked for any typos. $\endgroup$
    – Parseval
    Mar 9, 2018 at 16:46

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The plane makes a $45^\circ$ angle with the height of the cylinder. The semi-major axis is the shortest radius of the ellipse, which is equal to the radius of the cylinder, i.e. $1$. The semi-major axis is $1\div\cos45^\circ=\sqrt{2}$.

Or you may rotate the system by $\pmatrix{x\\y\\z}=\pmatrix{1 & 0 & 0 \\ 0 & \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} & \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\\\\ 0 & -\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} & \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}}\pmatrix{X\\Y\\Z}$.

The equation of the cylinder becomes $\displaystyle X^2+\left(\frac{Y+Z}{\sqrt{2}}\right)^2=1$.

The equation of the plane becomes $\displaystyle \frac{-Y+Z}{\sqrt{2}}=\frac{Y+Z}{\sqrt{2}}+3$, i.e., $\displaystyle Y=-\frac{3}{\sqrt{2}}$.

Solving, we have the intersection $\displaystyle X^2+\left(\frac{-\frac{3}{\sqrt{2}}+Z}{\sqrt{2}}\right)^2=1$, which is an ellipse with semi-major axis $\sqrt{2}$ and semi-minor axis $1$.

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  • $\begingroup$ Nice one! Now when you point it out, it's clear. $\endgroup$
    – Parseval
    Mar 9, 2018 at 17:02
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The ellipsis is described by $c(t)=(\cos(t),\sin(t),\sin(t)+3)$. Since the cylinder’s diameter is $2$, one semi axis has length $1$. The cylinder is parallel to the $z$-axis, so we’re looking for points with highest and lowest third coordinate. These are achieved in $t=-\pi/2$ and $t=\pi/2$. The corresponding points are $(0,-1,2)$ and $(0,1,4)$. Since their distance is $2\sqrt2$, the other semiaxis has length $\sqrt2$.

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There is no calculation needed to convince you that the the two semiaxes are $a=\sqrt{2}$ and $b=1$. Draw a figure showing the $(y,z)$-plane and the $x$-axis collapsed to the point $O$. The plane $z=y+3$ in space then appears as a $45^\circ$ line $\ell$ which intersects two generating lines $y=\pm1$ of the cylinder, and in space the $x$-axis is orthogonal to $\ell$. The claim then follows from inspection of this figure.

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