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Let $\sigma$ and $\tau$ be two stopping times in $\mathscr{F}_t$ and let this filtration satisfy all the usual conditions.

Question: Is $\sigma + \tau$ a stopping time?

Attempt at a solution:

I need to demonstrate that $\{ \sigma + \tau \leq t\}\in \mathscr{F}_t$, or that $\{\sigma \leq t - \tau \} \in \mathscr{F}_t$.

Since $\sigma$ is a stopping time we have that $\{\sigma \leq t - \tau\} \in \mathscr{F}_{t - \tau}$, where $t - \tau \in [0,t]$.

Since $t > t - \tau$, we have that $\mathscr{F}_{t-\tau} \subseteq \mathscr{F}_t$ by the definition of $\mathscr{F}$.

This implies that $\{\sigma \leq t - \tau\} \in \mathscr{F}_t$, and that $\sigma + \tau$ is a stopping time.


Is my attempt correct?

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    $\begingroup$ It seems like you're working with $\tau$ as if it were a constant. For example: "Since $\sigma$ is a stopping time we have that $\{\sigma\leq t-\tau\}\in\mathscr{F}_{t-\tau}$" - is this clear from the definition of $\sigma$ being a stopping time? $\endgroup$ Commented Nov 8, 2012 at 8:46
  • $\begingroup$ I thought that that is true because of the following: Since I'm told that $\sigma$ is a stopping time, then $\{\sigma \leq x\} \in \mathscr{F}_x$ for any $x \in [0,\infty)$. Now for $x = t - \tau$, it's true that the image $x(\omega)$ satisfies the above, but I'm not sure if $x$ itself does. I'm pretty bad at maths (unfortunately). $\endgroup$
    – Jase
    Commented Nov 8, 2012 at 9:07
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    $\begingroup$ The problem is that $\{\sigma\leq x\}\in\mathscr{F}_x$ holds for any deterministic (constant) $x\in [0,\infty)$. Now $x=t-\tau$ is random, i.e. $x(\omega)=t-\tau(\omega)$, so we cannot apply the definition on this $x$. Actually $x(\omega)$ may even be negative (if $\tau(\omega)>t$). $\endgroup$ Commented Nov 8, 2012 at 9:12
  • $\begingroup$ @StefanHansen Okay then I'm lost in this problem unfortunately. $\endgroup$
    – Jase
    Commented Nov 8, 2012 at 9:29

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Following did's comment, we could write this a little more simply.

For each fixed $\omega$, I claim $\sigma(\omega) + \tau(\omega) < t$ iff there are positive rationals $r,s$ with $r+s < t$ and $\sigma(\omega) < r$, $\tau(\omega) < s$. Suppose $\sigma(\omega) + \tau(\omega) < t$; we can find a rational $q$ with $\sigma(\omega) + \tau(\omega) < q < t$. Then $\sigma(\omega) < q - \tau(\omega)$, so we can find $r$ with $\sigma(\omega) < r < q - \tau(\omega)$. Setting $s = q-r$ we see that we have $\tau(\omega) < s$. The reverse implication is obvious.

Thus we have $$\{\sigma + \tau < t\} = \bigcup_{r,s \in \mathbb{Q}^+; r+s<t} \{\sigma < r\} \cap \{\tau < s\}.$$ But $\{\sigma < r\} \in \mathcal{F}_r \subset \mathcal{F}_t$; likewise $\{\tau < s\} \in \mathcal{F}_t$. Thus $\{\sigma + \tau < t\}$ is a countable union of events from $\mathcal{F}_t$, and so it itself in $\mathcal{F}_t$.

I'd like to point out that this is a useless fact; as far as I can see, there's no meaningful interpretation of the sum of two stopping times, since stopping times represent absolute rather than relative times. (If the train to Paris leaves at 5:00, and the train to Berlin leaves at 6:00, what happens at 11:00? Nothing.)

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    $\begingroup$ r,s are $\mathbb{R}$-valued - why can you restrict to $\mathbb{Q}$? It seems even though $\mathbb{Q}$ is dense in $\mathbb{R}$ you have issue about precise specification $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 18, 2015 at 17:20
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    $\begingroup$ @JohnFernley: I don't understand your comment. I defined $r,s$ to be rational numbers. Can you explain specifically which step of my argument you think is incorrect or insufficiently proved? $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 18, 2015 at 17:25
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    $\begingroup$ My issue is that $\{\sigma < \sqrt{2}\} \cap \{\tau < 2-\sqrt{2}\} \subset \{\sigma + \tau < 2\}$ and so I don't see how the union you give is the whole set $\endgroup$ Commented Feb 23, 2015 at 16:15
  • $\begingroup$ Thank you for the answer! I'd also like to point out that your remark is very witty :) $\endgroup$
    – Sasha
    Commented Dec 10, 2015 at 18:28
  • $\begingroup$ I can think of a few reasons we might care about the sum of stopping times. (1) If we just take $\tau = c$ is a constant, then $\sigma + \tau$ represents what is happening at some time after $\sigma$ occurred. E.g. if the train leaves to Paris at 5, where is it 2 hours later? Or e.g. how far are you from a set at a fixed time after hitting it? (2) if e.g. $\sigma$ tells me when I have the opportunity to bet and $\tau$ tells me when I have enough money to bet, then $\tau - \sigma$ tells me how long I have to wait from when an opportunity presents itself to when I can take advantage of it $\endgroup$ Commented Mar 31, 2019 at 17:21
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Revised answer:

I found it easier to look at the complements instead. Then we might as well show that $\{\tau+\sigma>t\}\in\mathscr{F}_t$ for all $t$. For a stopping time $\tau$ we know that $\{\tau<t\}\in\mathscr{F}_t$ and also $\{\tau=t\}\in\mathscr{F}_t$. Now we write our set as

$$ \{\tau+\sigma>t\}=\{\tau=0,\,\tau+\sigma>t\}\cup\{0<\tau<t,\,\tau+\sigma>t\}\cup\{\tau\geq t,\, \tau+\sigma>t\}\\ =\{\tau=0,\,\sigma>t\}\cup\{0<\tau<t,\,\tau+\sigma>t\}\cup\{\tau>t,\,\sigma=0\}\cup\{\tau\geq t,\,\sigma>0\}. $$

Then $\{\tau=0,\,\sigma>t\}\in\mathscr{F}_t$ and $\{\tau>t,\,\sigma=0\}\in\mathscr{F}_t$, since $\tau$ and $\sigma$ are stopping times. Furthermore $\{\tau\geq t,\,\sigma>0\}\in\mathscr{F}_t$ because $\{\sigma>0\}=\{\sigma=0\}^c\in\mathscr{F}_0$ and $\{\tau\geq t\}=\{\tau<t\}^c\in\mathscr{F}_t$. At last we have that $$ \{0<\tau<t,\tau+\sigma>t\}=\bigcup_{r\,\in\, (0,t)\cap\,\mathbb{Q}}\{r<\tau<t,\,\sigma>t-r\}\in\mathscr{F}_t. $$

I hope that this last equality with the union now holds.

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    $\begingroup$ There is no such $s$ when $\sigma+\tau=t$ and $t$ is not rational hence this identity does not hold. You might want to use $\lt t+1/n$ instead of $\leqslant t$, and then consider the intersection of these over $n$. $\endgroup$
    – Did
    Commented Nov 8, 2012 at 10:37
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    $\begingroup$ @did, I'm sorry that you, yet again, have to clean up in my answers. I think you should post the answer instead of me, because i'm not entirely sure, and then I will delete this. $\endgroup$ Commented Nov 8, 2012 at 10:42
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    $\begingroup$ Stefan: PLEASE do not feel sorry for these one or two occurrences (of something I would not describe as you do). Why not revise your answer, I am sure you can do that, and then everybody shall be happy. (Oh, and I forgot to say: your answers are good, from what I have seen... :-)) $\endgroup$
    – Did
    Commented Nov 8, 2012 at 10:54
  • $\begingroup$ @did: Thanks for the cheering up! However, I can't seem to express $\{\sigma+\tau<t+1/n\}$ as a countable union of sets belonging to $\mathscr{F}_t$. I think you might as well post it :) $\endgroup$ Commented Nov 8, 2012 at 11:36
  • $\begingroup$ Use your idea: $\sigma+\tau\lt t$ if and only if there exists $r$ and $s$ rational numbers such that $r+s\lt t$, $\sigma\leqslant r$, $\tau\leqslant s$. $\endgroup$
    – Did
    Commented Nov 8, 2012 at 11:40
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There is a brief proof in the book ``S. W. He et al., Semimartingale Theory and Stochastic Calculus, CRC Press Inc, 1992.''(p.84, Th.3.7.(3)).

The proof is based on following fact(Th.3.7.(1)): If $S$ is a stopping time, r.v. $ T\in\mathscr{F}_S $ and $ T\ge S $, then $ T $ is a stopping time.(Proof of this fact: For each $ t\ge 0 $, $ [T\le t]\in\mathscr{F}_S$, and by the definition of $\mathscr{F}_S $ we have $ [T\le t]=[T\le t][S\le t]\in\mathscr{F}_t $, hence $ T $ is a stopping time.)

$ S+T $ is a stopping time: Since $ S+T\ge S \lor T $ and $ S+T\in \mathscr{F}_{S\lor T} $($ S\in \mathscr{F}_S\subset \mathscr{F}_{S\lor T}$), then $ S+T $ is a stopping time.

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Nates' answer is on the right track but assumes right continuity. The definition of stopping time is $\{\sigma \le t\}\in \mathcal{F}_t$ (instead of $\{\sigma < t\}\in \mathcal{F}_t$). Stefan's uses of $\{\tau < t\} \in \mathcal{F}_t$ and $\{\tau = t\} \in \mathcal{F}_t$ for stopping time $\tau$ are correct, but the lemmas can use some extra proof. The following is a proof hopefully with the issues avoided.

We claim that $$\{\sigma + \tau > t\} = \left(\bigcup_{r,s \in Q^+, r + s > t, r\le t, s\le t}\{\sigma > r\} \cap \{ \tau > s \}\right)\cup\{\sigma > t\}\cup\{\tau > t\}. $$

It is trivial to see that the RHS $\subset$ LHS, RHS $ \in\mathcal{F}_t$ (note $\{\sigma > r\}\in \mathcal{F}_r \subset \mathcal{F}_t$ for $r \le t$). It remains to show LHS $\subset$ RHS to conclude $\{\sigma + \tau > t\} \in \mathcal{F}_t$.

For any $\omega \in $ LHS, if $\sigma(\omega) = 0$ or $\tau(\omega) = 0$, then $\omega \in \{\sigma > t\} \cup \{\tau > t\}\subset$RHS. Otherwise, we have $\sigma(\omega) + \tau(\omega) >t, \sigma(\omega) > 0, \tau(\omega) > 0.$ We can always find two rational numbers $r, s$ so that $r + s > t, r\le t, s\le t,$ $\sigma(\omega) > r \ge 0,$ $\tau(\omega) > s \ge 0.$ Hence $\omega \in \{\sigma > r\} \cap \{ \tau > s \} \subset$ RHS. This completes the proof that LHS = RHS = $\{\sigma + \tau > t\} \in \mathcal{F}_t$.

It follows that $\{\sigma + \tau \le t\}\in \mathcal{F}_t$, i.e. $\sigma + \tau$ is a stopping time.

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  • $\begingroup$ Nate’s answer is complete. Because the filtration satisfies the usual conditions, the filtration is right-continuous. It is therefore sufficient to show that $\{\sigma + \tau < t\} \in \cal F_t$. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 16, 2019 at 5:48
  • $\begingroup$ You are correct if "usual conditions" is interpreted as including the filtration being right-continuous. It is still worthwhile to prove/show the conclusion holds without right continuity. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 16, 2019 at 22:20
  • $\begingroup$ That is part of the standard interpretation of the phrase “usual conditions”. I agree that it is worthwhile to show this, but perhaps you can remove the statement that Nate’s answer is incomplete, as that is not the case. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 0:31
  • $\begingroup$ Just modified the statements a bit. $\endgroup$ Commented Oct 17, 2019 at 1:01

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