# If $28a + 30b + 31c = 365$, then what is the value of $a +b +c$?

Question: For 3 non negative integers $a, b, c$; if $28a + 30b + 31c = 365$ what is the value of $a +b +c$ ?

How I approached it : I started immediately breaking it onto this form on seeing it :

$28(a +b +c) +2b +3c = 365 .......(1)$ $30(a +b +c) -2a +c = 365 .......(2)$ $31(a +b +c) -b -3a = 365 .......(3)$

And then I find out that

$365 = 28*13 + 1......(1')$; $365 = 30*12 + 5......(2')$ $365 = 31*11 + 24......(3')$

Now as we see (1) and (1') as well as (3) and (3') or even equations $2$ and $2'$ do not combine quiet congruently, so I meet with a dead end here.

my issue : how should I approach such problems where we are given no other equations or data? Basically I am asking what are a few ways to get a solution for this problem.

• $28\times 2 + 30\times 7 + 31\times 3 = 359\ne 365$ – Joey Zou Aug 11 '16 at 21:25
• This is a trick question, you are supposed to observe that these are the lengths of months and 365 is the length of a normal year. – f'' Aug 11 '16 at 21:31

More direct path to $a+b+c = 12$:

Write $x=a+b+c$. In particular the last equation implies $31 x \ge 365$ so $x>11$. On the other hand, the first equation is $28x + 2b + 3c = 365$. If either $b$ or $c$ is nonzero, this means $28x < 364$ so $x < 13$. And $b=c=0$ is not possible because $365$ is not divisible by $28$.

added: to be fair I should complete the proof... $x=12$ means $2b + 3c = 29$. $c$ must be odd and less than $10$, so it can be $1, 3, 5, 7, 9$. Substitute in $2b+3c = 29$, then in $a+b+c = 12$ and keep only the solutions with non-negative $a$.

Your equation (2) should say $$30(a+b+c) - 2a + c = 365.$$ Note that this implies $$c- 2a \equiv 5 \mod 30.$$ I now claim that, in fact, $c-2a = 5$. This would imply that $30(a+b+c)+5=365$, or that $a+b+c = 12$.

Since we know that $c-2a\equiv 5\mod 30$, it suffices to show that $-25< c-2a < 35$ to conclude that $c-2a = 5$. The upper bound is easy, since $$31c\le 365\implies c\le 11\implies c-2a\le 11 < 35$$ as $a$ is nonnegative. To get the lower bound, we note that $$28a\le 365\implies a\le 13.$$ Furthermore, if $a=13$, then $28\times 13 + 30b+31c = 365\implies 30b+31c = 1$, which is clearly impossible for nonnegative $b$ and $c$. Thus, $a\le 12$, and hence $$c-2a\ge 0 - 2(12) = -24 >-25$$ since $c$ is also nonnegative. Hence, $-25 < c-2a < 35$, and combined with the fact that $c-2a\equiv 5\mod 30$, we conclude that $c-2a = 5$, as desired.

Using the fact that $c-2a = 5$, we can also solve for the possible solutions. Substituting $c = 2a+5$ into the original equation yields \begin{align} 28a+30b+31(2a+5) &= 365 \\ \implies 28a + 30b + 62a + 155 &= 365 \\ \implies 90a + 30b &= 210 \\ \implies 3a + b &= 7. \end{align} We thus see that \begin{align} a = 0 &\implies b = 7, c = 5 \\ a = 1 &\implies b = 4, c = 7 \\ a = 2 &\implies b = 1, c = 9. \end{align} If $a\ge 3$, then $b<0$. Hence, we conclude that $(0,7,5)$, $(1,4,7)$, and $(2,1,9)$ are the only solutions to the problem.

The sum of $a,b,c$ is greater than $11$ because $31(11) = 341 < 365.$

The sum has to be less than $14$ because $28(14) = 406 > 365$.

It also cannot be $13$ because, although $28(13) = 364 < 365$, we can only swap out a $30$ or $31$ for one of the $28$'s, and this puts us over $365$.

So, the sum is $12$.

The value of $c$ must be odd because the other two terms must be even, and the sum is odd. Let's check each odd value of $c$ such that $0 \leq c \leq 12$.

$c=11$ doesn't work because an additional $28$ or $30$ puts us over $365$.

$c=9$ can work. $31(9) = 279$, and $365-279 = 86$. $28(2) + 30 = 86,$ so $(a,b,c) = (2,1,9)$ is a solution.

$c=7$ works a bit by inspection: Seven months have $31$ days, four have $30$, and one has $28$, which total $365$ days. So $(1,4,7)$ is also a solution.

$c=5$ works also. $31(5)=155$, and $365-155= 210$, which is $30(7)$. So $(0,7,5)$ is a third solution.

$c=3$ doesn't work because $365-3(31) = 272$, which is greater than $30(9)$.

$c=1$ doesn't work either, because $365-31 = 334 > 30(11)$.

So, three solutions: $(2,1,9), (1,4,7), (0,7,5).$

• 1 + 6 + 7 = 14. I think you mean 1 + 4 + 7. – gnasher729 Aug 11 '16 at 22:08
• @gnasher729 LOL thanks. Apparently I don't inspect very well. – John Aug 15 '16 at 15:45

I'm not sure what you meant by combining (2) and (2'). However, here is a possible continuation.

Equations (1) and (1') imply that $a+b+c<14$. Equations (3) and (3') imply that $a+b+c>11$. If $a+b+c=13$, then (2) yields $2a-3c=25$, or $a\geq 13$, whence $a=13$, $b=0$, and $c=0$, which do not form a solution. That is, $a+b+c=12$ must hold. It is easy to see that $$(a,b,c)=(1,4,7)+t(-1,3,-2)$$ with $t\in\mathbb{Z}$ are the only integer solutions to $28a+30b+31c=365$ and $a+b+c=12$. For nonnegative-integer solutions, $t\in\{-1,0,+1\}$ are the only possibilities, giving three triples $(a,b,c)=(2,1,9)$, $(a,b,c)=(1,4,7)$, and $(a,b,c)=(0,7,5)$.

• But then how come my triad too agree with the given conditions? – Arnav Das Aug 11 '16 at 21:33
• Your triad is not a solution. – Batominovski Aug 11 '16 at 21:35
• Ummm but why is that ? Am not able to grasp it – Arnav Das Aug 11 '16 at 21:38
• Joey Zou already posted a comment on that. – Batominovski Aug 11 '16 at 21:39
• Actually $(0,7,5)$ and $(2,1,9)$ are also solutions, although their sums are also $12$, of course. – Joey Zou Aug 11 '16 at 21:49