What is the difference between Riemann-integrable and Lebesgue-integrable? Does it have anything to do with the absolute value of the integrand; something like

$\text{Lebesgue-integrable} \Leftrightarrow \int |f(x)| < \infty$?

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    $\begingroup$ No, it has to do with what we mean by the symbol $\int$. $\endgroup$ Feb 5 '16 at 16:56
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    $\begingroup$ Lesbegue integration allows us to integrate a much larger class of functions, such as $\chi_{\mathbb{Q}}$, the characteristic function of the rationals. It also has much nicer properties than the riemann integral. For instance, lesbegue integration commutes with limits. $\endgroup$
    – basket
    Feb 5 '16 at 16:57
  • $\begingroup$ Could you explain further? How is the characteristic function of the rationals lebesgque-integrable and what is its value? I am a physicist so I know some math but by far not as much as I am supposed to. I am trying to really understand the differences between riemann and lebesgue integration but the Wikipedia article already is too hard for me :( $\endgroup$
    – AlphaOmega
    Feb 5 '16 at 17:19

The main difference between integrability in the sense of Lebesgue and Riemann is the way we measure 'the area under the curve'.

The Riemann integral asks the question what's the 'height' of $f$ above a given part of the domain of the function. The Lebesgue integral on the other hand asks, for a given part of the range of $f$, what's the measure of the $x$'s which contribute to this 'height'.

The following is taken from the wikipedia page for Lebesgue integration, and most instructive (Riemann in blue on the top, Lebesgue in red on the bottom):

comparision of integrals

(Taken from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebesgue_integration#/media/File:RandLintegrals.png, CC BY-SA 3.0)

Or, another way to explain this:

I have to pay a certain sum, which I have collected in my pocket. I take the bills and coins out of my pocket and give them to the creditor in the order I find them until I have reached the total sum. This is the Riemann integral. But I can proceed differently. After I have taken all the money out of my pocket I order the bills and coins according to identical values and then I pay the several heaps one after the other to the creditor. This is my integral.

This due to Reinhard Siegmund-Schultze, (2008), "Henri Lebesgue", in Timothy Gowers, June Barrow-Green, Imre Leader, Princeton Companion to Mathematics, Princeton University Press.

As a result of the different definitions, different classes of functions are integrable:

By definition, $f$ is Lebesgue-integrable iff $|f|$ is Lebesgue-integrable.

And, indeed, as basket noted, we can integrate a lot of functions in the Lebesgue sense which can't be integrated in the Riemann sense (e.g. the so-called Dirichlet function which is $1$ on the rational numbers and $0$ on the irrational ones). We even have the nice result that if $f$ is bounded and defined on a compact set and Riemann integrable, then it is Lebesgue integrable.

On the other hand, if the domain isn't bounded, then $f$ might be integrable in the improper Riemann sense, but not integrable in the Lebesgue sense (e.g. $f(x)=\frac{\sin(x)}{x}$ on $[1,\infty)$ - for this function, even $|f|$ is not integrable in the improper Riemann sense).

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    $\begingroup$ I think you mixed up the integrals in the picture. $\endgroup$ Feb 5 '16 at 17:51
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    $\begingroup$ @YoTengoUnLCD Indeed! Thanks, it's fixed now. $\endgroup$
    – Roland
    Feb 5 '16 at 18:25
  • $\begingroup$ Just wanted to point out that the "bills and coins" explanation was not due to Siegmund-Schultze (2008), who actually says that it is due to "Lebesgue himself, according to his colleague, Paul Montel". $\endgroup$
    – user46234
    Oct 6 '18 at 13:24

One can't really simplify things to the level that you apparently want. Simply the theory is somewhat complicated and there is no simple short answer to your question.

Since presumably you already know the definitions, let me comment on two aspects, which are essentially the most important, of course in MY opinion:

1) The simplest nontrivial comment is that Riemann-integration looks at the domain of the function, while Lebesgue-integration looks at the codomain, certainly at the expense of needing more than just intervals.

2) On the other hand, it is reasonable to argue that the most important property of Lebesgue-integration is that one can construct a complete space using (equivalence classes of) Lebesgue-integrable functions.


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