# When the product of dice rolls yields a square

Succinct Question:

Suppose you roll a fair six-sided die $n$ times.

What is the probability that the product of the rolls is a square?

Context:

I used this as one question in a course for elementary school teachers when $n=2$, and thought the generalization might be a good follow-up question for secondary school math teachers. But I encountered quite a bit of difficulty in tackling it, and I am wondering if there is a neater solution than what I have already seen, and to what deeper phemonena it connects.

Known:

Since the six sides of a die are $1, 2, 3, 2^2, 5,$ and $2\cdot3$, the product of the rolls is always of the form $2^{A}3^{B}5^{C}$, and the question is now transformed into the probability that $A, B, C$ are all even. The actual "probability" component is mostly for ease of phrasing; its only contribution is a $6^n$ in the denominator, and my true question is of a more combinatorial nature: namely,

In how many ways can the product of $n$ rolls yield a square?

One approach that I have seen involves first creating an $8 \times 8$ matrix corresponding to the eight cases around the parity of $A, B, C$; one can then take the dot product of each roll with this matrix, and hope to spot a pattern. In this way, one may discover the formula:

$$\frac{6^n + 4^n + 3\cdot2^n}{8}$$

and the "probability" version is simply this formula with another $6^n$ multiplied in the denominator.

As for proving this: Some guesswork around linear combinations of the numerator yields a formula for each of the eight cases concerning $A,B,C$ parity, and one can then prove all eight of them by induction. And so I "know" the answer in the sense that I have all eight of the formulae (and the particular one listed above is correct) but they were not found in a particularly organized fashion.

My Actual Question:

What is a systematic way to deduce the formula, given above, for the number of ways the product of $n$ rolls yields a square, and to what deeper phenomena does this connect?

• Re "hope to spot a pattern. In this way, one may discover the formula". The eigenvectors from the matrix (6,4,2,2,2,0,0,0) tell you the general formula is $A6^n + B4^n + C2^n+ Dn2^n + En^22^n$. It's tedious by hand calculation, but you can systematically find the value of the constants $A,B,C,D,E$ by substituting in the first few known values for $n=0,1,2,3,4$. – Frentos Dec 29 '15 at 4:07

## 5 Answers

For $1\le i\le6,\;$ let $a_i$ be the number of dice which have the digit $i$ appearing.

The product of the rolls will be a perfect square when $a_2+a_6,\;$ $a_3+a_6,\;$ and $a_5$ are all even;

so we can consider two cases:

$\textbf{1)}$ When $a_2, a_3, a_6$ are all odd, we get the exponential generating function

$\;\;\;\displaystyle\underbrace{\big(1+x+\frac{x^2}{2!}+\cdots\big)^2}_{a_1, a_4}\underbrace{\big(x+\frac{x^3}{3!}+\frac{x^5}{5!}+\cdots\big)^3}_{a_2, a_3, a_6}\underbrace{\big(1+\frac{x^2}{2!}+\frac{x^4}{4!}+\cdots\big)}_{a_5}$

$\;\;\;\displaystyle=e^{2x}\left(\frac{e^x-e^{-x}}{2}\right)^3\left(\frac{e^x+e^{-x}}{2}\right)=\color{red}{\frac{1}{16}\big(e^{6x}-2e^{4x}-e^{-2x}+2\big)}$

$\textbf{2)}$ When $a_2, a_3, a_6$ are all even, we get the exponential generating function

$\;\;\;\displaystyle\underbrace{\big(1+x+\frac{x^2}{2!}+\cdots\big)^2}_{a_1,a_4}\underbrace{\big(1+\frac{x^2}{2!}+\frac{x^4}{4!}+\cdots\big)^4}_{a_2,a_3, a_5, a_6}$

$\;\;\;\displaystyle=e^{2x}\left(\frac{e^x+e^{-x}}{2}\right)^4=\color{red}{\frac{1}{16}\big(e^{6x}+4e^{4x}+6e^{2x}+e^{-2x}+4\big)}$

Adding the two cases gives the generating function

$\;\;\;\displaystyle g_e(x)=\frac{1}{16}\big[2e^{6x}+2e^{4x}+6e^{2x}+6\big]=\color{red}{\frac{1}{8}\big[e^{6x}+e^{4x}+3e^{2x}+3\big]}$

$\hspace{.3 in}\displaystyle=1+\frac{1}{8}\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\left(6^n+4^n+3\cdot2^n\right)\frac{x^n}{n!},\;\;$ so there are

$\displaystyle \hspace{.5 in}\color{blue}{\frac{1}{8}\big(6^n+4^n+3\cdot2^n\big)}$ ways to roll $n$ dice and get a product which is a perfect square.

• @BenjaminDickman Thanks for your comments; I did have a missing exponent in 1), and I have added a little more detail. As you say, the series I'm using are the Maclaurin series for the hyperbolic sine and cosine. – user84413 Jan 3 '16 at 0:47
• @BenjaminDickman I haven't seen a way to solve a problem like this directly using hyperbolic functions (but that doesn't necessarily mean that such a method doesn't exist). – user84413 Jan 3 '16 at 1:43
• @user84413: +1 for your contribution, which is clearly an enrichment to the given answers so far! – Markus Scheuer Jan 3 '16 at 8:20
• @BenjaminDickman: Note, that $\exp z, \sinh z$ and $\cosh z$ are the characteristic EGFs of $\mathbb{Z}_{\geq 0},2\mathbb{Z}_{\geq 0}+1$ and $2\mathbb{Z}_{\geq 0}$ respectively. So, the occurrence of $\sinh z$ and $\cosh z$ seems to be quite natural whenever parity matters. An instructive table, Comtet's square, can be found as Example II.7 in Flajolets classic Analytic Combinatorics. He refers to an example in Comtet's classic and Comtet presents there a nice universal generating function. :-) – Markus Scheuer Jan 3 '16 at 10:53
• @BenjaminDickman: One famous occurrence of $\sinh z$ is in Rademachers exact formula for the number of integer partitions (see VIII.22 in Flajolet's book). It could be interesting to study the proof with your question in mind. ... – Markus Scheuer Jan 3 '16 at 10:59

You can bypass the cumbersome transition matrix method in this problem, and get a quicker explicit solution using generating functions and some algebra tricks.

Your goal is to count the number of 2s, 3s, and 5s that occur in the prime factorization $(2^A 3^B 5^C)$ of the product of N rolls of a die. The exponents of these primes increase in an additive fashion with each roll. We can model this by treating the exponents $(A,B,C)$ as position vectors on a three-dimensional lattice.

Step 1. Each outcome of each roll of the die has a prime factorization, and has the incremental effect of shifting your position on the lattice by a displacement vector. Below we tabulate the possible outcomes of a roll of a die, and the exponents that occur in the prime factorization of the number rolled).

1: (0,0,0) 2:(1,0,0) 3:(0,1,0) 4:(2,0,0) 5:(0,0,1) 6:(1,1,0)

Since we want to keep track only of the parity of these exponents we can regard (2,0,0) as equivalent to (0,0,0). Note that there are now two ways to roll this null displacement vector, and one way to roll the other displacement vectors.

Step 2. We now use algebraic expressions as a notational device for modeling a displacement on a lattice. To each of the outcomes listed above we use its prime factorization to construct an associated algebraic expression. (Admittedly it seems like we are chasing our tails, toggling back and forth between additive and multiplicative descriptions of numbers, but be patient. ) :)

$1\to 2^0 3^0 5^0 \to a^0 b^ 0 c^0$ (null displacement on exponent lattice)

$2\to 2^1 3^0 5^0 \to a^1 b^0 c^0 = a$

$\ldots$

$4\to 2^2 3^0 5^0 \to a^2 \to a^0$ (null displacement) because in our case we care only about parity on the exponent lattice

$\ldots$

$6\to a*b$

Step 3. Now we are ready to introduce generating functions! To account for all six outcomes of a dice roll, set $F(a,b,c)= 2+ a + b + a*b + c$ which correctly double-counts the null outcome. The magic of generating functions as a book-keeping device is that for example the 3rd power of the multivariable polynomial $F(a,b,c)$ tells you the number of ways that three rolls of the die can add up to a given displacement vector on the exponent lattice. That is, the expansion of the third power $F(a,b,c)^3=8 + 12 a + 6 a^2 + a^3 + 12 b + 24 a b + 15 a^2 b + 3 a^3 b + 6 b^2 + 15 a b^2 + 12 a^2 b^2 + 3 a^3 b^2 + b^3 + 3 a b^3 + 3 a^2 b^3 + a^3 b^3 + 12 c + 12 a c + 3 a^2 c + 12 b c + 18 a b c + 6 a^2 b c + 3 b^2 c + 6 a b^2 c + 3 a^2 b^2 c + 6 c^2 + 3 a c^2 + 3 b c^2 + 3 a b c^2 + c^3$

tells you that in three rolls there are $6$ ways to get the algebraic expression $a^2 b c$ (which corresponds to the displacement vector $(2,1,1)$ on the exponent lattice, which in turn corresponds to increasing the cumulative product of numbers rolled by the factor $2^2 \times 3 \times 5$.)

Now, since you want to keep track of the general $n_{th}$ power of $F(a,b,c)$ you can introduce the geometric series $g(a,b,c;t)= \frac{1}{ 1- t F} = 1+ t F+ t^2 F^2 + t^3 F^3 \ldots$ whose expansion in powers of $t$ consists of the powers of $F$.

Step 4. Recall that you want to lump together all lattice positions that have the same parity mod 2. A sneaky trick for accomplishing that "topological identification" of congruent lattice points is to symmetrize the function $g$ to make it even in each of the variables $(a,b,c)$, so that only even powers of $a,b,c$ occur in its Taylor expansion. This symmetrized function is an eight-term expression $S(a,b,c;t)= \frac{1}{8}[g(a,b,c;t)+ g(-a,b,c;t)+ g(a,b,c) + g( a,-b, c) +\ldots]$

In principle we could expand $8S(a,b,c;t)$ out as a Taylor series: $8 + 16 t + 8 (4 + a^2 + b^2 + a^2 b^2 + c^2) t^2 + (64 + 48 a^2 + 48 b^2 + 96 a^2 b^2 + 48 c^2) t^3 +\ldots$

but actually all we care about is the coefficient-weighted total number of different terms that occur for each power of $t$.

Step 5. This latter can be found by the simple trick of replacing $a=1, b=1, c=1$ which is a massive simplification. So go back and do that from the very beginning, where $g$ is introduced, repeat the symmetrization process, insert the numerical values $a=1,b=1,c=1$ and collect terms in an expression that now depends only on $t$. We see that $8 S(a,b,c;t) =3 + 1/(1 - 6 t) + 1/(1 - 4 t) + 3/(1 - 2 t)$.

Step 6. Now at last it is clear (by expanding the last expression in its geometric series) why you get the answer $\frac{6^n + 4^n + 3* 2^n}{8}$.

• Excellent. Do you have a recommended reference for problem solving with generating functions? (I would be especially interested in seeing your Steps 4 and 5 applied similarly to other problems...) – Benjamin Dickman Dec 30 '15 at 2:24
• @BenjaminDickman: H. Wilf's Generatingfunctionology is a great starter. You might want to have a look at this answer. – Markus Scheuer Dec 31 '15 at 17:13

Note: This answer can be regarded as supplement to the nice answer of @MathWonk. Here we put a strong focus on generating functions.

Intro: A typical representation of one roll of a six-sided die is given by \begin{align*} x^1+x^2+x^3+x^4+x^5+x^6 \end{align*} The exponents of $x$ represent the pips of the die, the coefficients the number of occurrences of the respective event. Since we want to count the number of squares in $n$ rolls, we also keep track of the prime factors $2,3$ and $5$ which occur in the numbers $1,\ldots,6$. We use the variables $a,b$ and $c$ to mark the number of these prime factors. We obtain the generating function \begin{align*} x+ax^2+bx^3+a^2x^4+cx^5+abx^6 \end{align*} The variable $a$ represents the occurrence of $2$, $b$ represents $3$ and $c$ the prime $5$. Since the number $6=2\cdot3$ we count the prime factor $2$ and $3$ by multiplying the term $x^6$ with $a b$. This is similarly done for all other faces of the die.

We also want to keep track of the number of rolls, so we introduce a variable $t$ and multiply each term with it. This way we can define as basic building block the generating function \begin{align*} A(a,b,c;t;x)=(x+ax^2+bx^3+a^2x^4+cx^5+abx^6)t \end{align*} A generating function representing $n\geq 1$ rolls is \begin{align*} A_n(a,b,c;t;x)&:= \left(A(a,b,c;t;x)\right)^n\\ &=(x^1+ax^2+bx^3+a^2x^4+cx^5+abx^6)^nt^n \end{align*}

In fact these are only introductory notes, giving some background knowledge. We can instead start with

Main part: Let $A_n(a,b,c;t;x)$ be a generating function of a six-sided die representing $n$ rolls, which keeps track of the prime factors $2,3$ and $5$ of the pips and the number of rolls. It is given for $n\geq 1$ by \begin{align*} A_n(a,b,c;t;x)&=(x^1+ax^2+bx^3+a^2x^4+cx^5+abx^6)^nt^n\\ &=t^n\sum_{{i_1+i_2+\ldots+i_6=n}\atop{i_j\geq 0,1\leq j \leq 6}}\binom{n}{i_1,i_2,\ldots,i_6} x^{i_1+2i_2+\ldots+6i_6}a^{i_2+2i_4+i_6}b^{i_3}c^{i_5}\tag{1} \end{align*} with $\binom{n}{i_1,i_2,\ldots,i_6}=\frac{n!}{i_1!i_2!\cdots i_6!}$ the multinomial coefficients.

Since we want to count the rolls giving square numbers we are looking for a generating function $B_n(a,b,c;t;x)$, which is based upon $A_n(a,b,c;t;x)$ but additionally fulfills, that the exponents of $a,b$ and $c$ are even. In fact, this was the rationale for introducing these variables.

In order to obtain even exponents of $a,b$ and $c$ we need according to the representation in (1)

\begin{align*} i_2+2i_4+i_6&\equiv 0(2)\\ i_3&\equiv 0(2)\tag{2}\\ i_5&\equiv 0(2) \end{align*}

Now recall, that each function $f(x)$ can be represented as sum of an even and odd function via \begin{align*} f(x)&=f_e(x)+f_o(x)\\ &=\frac{f(x)+f(-x)}{2}+\frac{f(x)-f(-x)}{2} \end{align*} The even part $G_e(x)$ of a generating function $G(x)=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}g_nx^n$ contains even powers of $x$ only, since \begin{align*} G_e(x)=\frac{G(x)+G(-x)}{2}=\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}g_{2n}x^{2n} \end{align*}

We need according to (2) an even generating function in the variables $a,b$ and $c$ which leads to \begin{align*} B_n(a,b,c;t;x)=\frac{1}{8}&\left(A_n(a,b,c;t;x)+A_n(-a,b,c;t;x)\right.\\ &+A_n(a,-b,c;t;x)+A_n(-a,-b,c;t;x)\\ &+A_n(a,b,-c;t;x)+A_n(-a,b,-c;t;x)\tag{3}\\ &\left.+A_n(a,-b,-c;t;x)+A_n(-a,-b,-c;t;x)\right)\\ \end{align*}

Note, we need the variables $a,b$ and $c$ for the derivation of the appropriate generating function $B_n(a,b,c;t;x)$. We don't need the variables to count the number of occurrences of squares. We also don't need to differentiate the pips, so we also don't need $x$ any longer.

We simply need the variable $t$ which counts the number of rolls and we want to add up all terms for a specific $t^n$. This way we count all occurrences of squares in $n$ rolls.

We obtain: The generating function $C_n(t)$ representing all occurrences of squares when rolling a die $n$ times is $(n\geq 1):$ \begin{align*} C_n(t)&=B_n(1,1,1;t;1)\\ &=\frac{1}{8}\left(A_n(1,1,1;t;1)+A_n(-1,1,1;t;1)\right.\\ &\qquad+A_n(1,-1,1;t;1)+A_n(-1,-1,1;t;1)\\ &\qquad+A_n(1,1,-1;t;1)+A_n(-1,1,-1;t;1)\\ &\qquad\left.+A_n(1,-1,-1;t;1)+A_n(-1,-1,-1;t;1)\right)\\ &=\frac{1}{8}\left((6t)^n+(2t)^n+(2t)^n+(2t)^n+(4t)^n+0+0+0\right)\\ &=\frac{1}{8}\left(6^n+4^n+3\cdot2^n\right)t^n \end{align*}

Note, it's convenient to use the coefficient of operator $[x^n]$ to denote the coefficient of $x^n$ of a series.

We conclude, the number of occurrences of squares when rolling a die $n$ times and multiplying the resulting pips is the coefficient of $t^n$ of the generating function $C_n(t)$ \begin{align*} [t^n]C_n(t)=\frac{1}{8}\left(6^n+4^n+3\cdot2^n\right)\qquad\qquad n\geq 1 \end{align*}

There's a slick approach to this based on bijections, though it loses a lot of the generality of the generating function methods.

Let $S=\{1,2,3,6\}$ and $T=\{4,5\}$. We will divide roll sequences into classes based on whether the sequence contains elements from $S, T,$ or both.

Class 1: Sequences consisting only of rolls in $T$. Swapping the first die roll between $4$ and $5$ gives a bijection between squares and non-squares, so exactly half the sequences in this class give a square.

Class 2: Sequences consisting only of rolls in $S$. Now we can divide the sequences into groups of $4$ that share the same last $n-1$ rolls. Each group has one square product, so exactly $1/4$ the sequences in this class give a square.

Class 3: Sequences containing both a roll in $S$ and a roll in $T$. To each sequence we assign a "type", consisting of (1): The location of the first roll in $S$, (2): the location of the first roll in $T$, and (3): The remaining $n-2$ rolls. Once the type is fixed, there's $8$ choices for the remaining roll, and exactly one of them gives a square.

So the number of square sequences is $$\frac{1}{2} |\textrm{Class } 1| + \frac{1}{4} |\textrm{Class } 2| + \frac{1}{8} |\textrm{Class } 3| = \frac{1}{2} 2^n + \frac{1}{4} 4^n + \frac{1}{8} (6^n-2^n-4^n)$$

• In Class 3 part (3) what does "the remaining roll" refer to? – Benjamin Dickman Jan 6 '16 at 16:28

Using diagonalization on Wolfram Alpha, I was able to confirm your result. I used the matrix

$$M=\left(\begin{array}{cccccccc} 2&1&1&1&1&0&0&0\\ 1&2&1&0&1&1&0&0\\ 1&1&2&0&1&0&1&0 \\ 1&0&0&2&0&1&1&1 \\ 1&1&1&0&2&0&0&1\\ 0&1&0&1&0&2&1&1\\ 0&0&1&1&0&1&2&1\\ 0&0&0&1&1&1&1&2 \end{array} \right)$$ which gives one step transitions between square root parts of products (no square root part , $\sqrt{2}$, $\sqrt{3}$, $\sqrt{5}$, $\sqrt{6}$, $\sqrt{10}$, $\sqrt{15}$, $\sqrt{30}$ respectively).

For the number you require, you want the first entry of $M^n\ \vec{b}$ where $\vec{b}=\left(\begin{array}{c}1\\0\\0\\0\\0\\0\\0\\0\end{array}\right)$

As mentioned above, using diagonalization with Wolfram Alpha (the diagonalizing matrix was actually quite nice--integer entries; the inverse had denominators of eighths), I was able to confirm your result.

I don't know if this method is an improvement over your description. I hope it helps!

• The diagonalization approach is very nice; thank you! – Benjamin Dickman Dec 29 '15 at 23:56