1
$\begingroup$

Let $R$ be a commutative ring with identity and let $I$ be an ideal of $R$. Define $\operatorname{Rad}(I)=\{a\in R:\exists n\in\mathbb N, a^n\in I\}$. Show that $Rad(I)$ is the intersection of all prime ideals $P$ of $R$ containing $I$.

I could prove that $$\operatorname{Rad}(I)\subset \bigcap_{I\subset P \text{ prime}}P$$

However I am not able to prove the other direction. I found the same question has been asked before but I do not follow the arguments placed there. I know nothing about localization or that of maximal ideal disjoint from a subring, etc. I would be obliged if someone helps me to prove this in the simplest terms possible.

Here's the link to the "identical" question: $\operatorname{rad}(I)=\bigcap_{I\subset P,~P\text{ prime}}P$

I don't actually get any of the answers, from the first line themselves.

$\endgroup$
  • $\begingroup$ If you do not understand the arguments at the question, then your question here should be about the parts you don't understand there. If you just ask the same question as the other one, you may attract close votes. $\endgroup$ – rschwieb Oct 6 '15 at 13:58
  • $\begingroup$ I don't understand anything that's written there. $\endgroup$ – Landon Carter Oct 6 '15 at 16:01
  • 1
    $\begingroup$ Localization is the easiest path for this. If you are unfamiliar with it, do you know why there are prime ideals in a ring like yours? You can then mimic that argument and avoid localization (or at least mask it). $\endgroup$ – Mohan Oct 6 '15 at 16:09
  • $\begingroup$ @LandonCarter If you can't even express the first single thing you don't understand about the post, I don't think many people will be excited about reexplaining the entire thing to you. We don't even know what post you are talking about, so someone might post a solution here that is nearly identical that you still "don't understand anything" about. You really have to throw us a bone, here. $\endgroup$ – rschwieb Oct 6 '15 at 17:40
  • $\begingroup$ @LandonCarter On the other hand, I am certain people would react positively to explaining concrete statements that you're having a hard time grasping. Just read it and pick the statements you don't get. And maybe link the solution you're looking at. $\endgroup$ – rschwieb Oct 6 '15 at 17:41
2
$\begingroup$

Let $x\notin Rad(I)$. By definition of $Rad(I)$ you know $S=\{1,x,x^2,x^3,\ldots\}$ is a multiplicatively closed set disjoint from $I$.

At this point, I highly recommend you get your head around the idea in item 1 of this post. It is a standard bit of commutative algebra that you should not avoid. It is literally Theorem 1 on page 1 of Kaplansky's Commutative Rings, so you should not be afraid of learning it. You don't have to go clear into localization, but it is well worth your time to get this bit down.

After you understand why

  • an ideal maximal with respect to avoiding a multiplicative set $S$ is prime,

it is not hard to adapt the proof to prove that

  • given an ideal $I$ not intersecting multiplicative set $S$, there is an ideal maximal with respect to avoiding $S$ which also contains $I$, and is necessarily prime for the same reasons as in the last point.

After that is established and you find your prime $P$, you'll have to see why $x\notin P$. At that point, you will have established that $x\notin Rad(I)$ implies $x\notin \cap \{P\mid P\text{ prime and } I\subseteq P\}$, and that's the contrapositive of the containment that you are seeking.

$\endgroup$

Your Answer

By clicking “Post Your Answer”, you agree to our terms of service, privacy policy and cookie policy

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.