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In topology, I read that sometimes we can add the empty set to a set that is not a topology to make it a topology, I'm ok with this, but my question is, how there could be a set that doesn't contain the empty set; is it not that this is the empty set {} and every set whatever in it, from the empty set itself to infinite sets (or any other arbitrary sets) has at least this empty container i.e. the empty set?

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    $\begingroup$ What do you mean by "contain"? Does a set contain its elements, or does it contain its subsets? $\endgroup$
    – bof
    Sep 25, 2015 at 9:34
  • $\begingroup$ the power set of any set contains the empty set, if that's what you are looking for $\endgroup$
    – user265328
    Sep 25, 2015 at 9:34

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If by "$A$ contains $B$", you mean "$B$ is a subset of $A$", then the answer is no. Because the statement

$\forall x\in\{\}: x\in A$

Is always true, it is always true (no matter what $A$ is), that $\{\}\subseteq A$.

If by "$A$ contains $B$", you mean "$B$ is an element of $A$", then the answer is yes. For example, the empty set is not an element of the empty set. Also, it is not an element of $\mathbb N$, or $\mathbb C$, or $\{1,2,3\}$ or a lot of other sets.

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  • $\begingroup$ yes my problem was messing up "element" with "subset". $\endgroup$
    – 333666999
    Sep 26, 2015 at 16:16

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