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Consider $R= K[X,Y]/(XY)$ and $I$ be the ideal generated by $[X^n]$ in $R$ for $n>2$. Then prove $I^{ec} \neq I$ where extensions and contractions of $I$ are taken considering the map $R \to R_{\mathfrak p}$ where $\mathfrak p=([X])$ and $R_{\mathfrak p}$ denotes localization of $R$ at $\mathfrak p$.

My try: We've $I=\{[f(X)] \mid \deg(f)>2\}$ and $R^c=S= \{[g(Y)]\}$. So, $I^e=\{\frac{[f(X)]}{[g(Y)]} \mid \deg(f)>2\}$. But then clearly $I^{ec}=I$, isn't it ?

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  • $\begingroup$ I think you've misunderstood the definition of $I$. It's not the set of polynomials of degree more than $2$. It's the set of polynomials with no constant, linear or quadratic term. $\endgroup$
    – Arthur
    Commented Sep 11, 2015 at 12:53
  • $\begingroup$ Yes, but any term involving $[XY]$ is zero in $R$ right ? $\endgroup$
    – dragoboy
    Commented Sep 11, 2015 at 13:01
  • $\begingroup$ Yes, but $X$ is not zero, and $X^4$ is not zero. What I mean to say, though, is that $X^4 + X^3$ is an element of $I$, but $X^4 + X^2$ is not. $\endgroup$
    – Arthur
    Commented Sep 11, 2015 at 13:06
  • $\begingroup$ Oh yes, sorry but still, is it really true that $I^{ec} \neq I$ ? I don't think so $\endgroup$
    – dragoboy
    Commented Sep 11, 2015 at 13:09
  • $\begingroup$ The conclusion holds for $n=2$, too. $\endgroup$
    – user26857
    Commented Sep 14, 2015 at 8:17

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The ideal $I^{ec}$ is bigger than the ideal $I$. This is why:

Take an element $f \in I$. This element is by definition of $I$ divisible by $X^3$, which means it's of the form $X^3g$ for some $g\in R$. Now, in $I^e$, the element $f$ becomes $\frac{f}{1} = \frac{X^3g}{1}$. I claim that this is equal (in $R_p$) to $\frac{0}{1}$. By definition of localization, two elements $\frac ab$ and $\frac cd$ are equal if there is an element $s$ in the multiplicative system such that $s(ad - bc) = 0$ In our case, we're looking for an $s \in R\setminus [X]$ such that $$ s(f\cdot 1 - 1 \cdot 0) = 0\\ sf = 0\\ sX^3g = 0 $$ But $Y$ is in the complement of $(X)$, so it's a valid $s$. We see that since $XY = 0$ in $R$, this makes $YX^3g = 0$. Since this works for any $f \in I$, we've shown that $I^e = \left(\frac 01\right)$ is the zero ideal in $R_p$. Consequently, the ideal $I^{ec}$ is the kernel of the localization, which is $(X)$.

The moral is: Whenever your localization inverts a zero divisor (in this case $Y$), all elements that are killed by that zero divisor becomes $0$ in the localization. It is, in fact, the only way localization can fail to be injective.

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  • $\begingroup$ Nice, thanks. but why $I^{ec}=0$ ? $X$ isn't in $I^{ec}$ ? $\endgroup$
    – dragoboy
    Commented Sep 11, 2015 at 13:32
  • $\begingroup$ Nope. But $X$ wasn't in $I$ to begin with either, so why should that surprise you? Since any element in $I$ is divisible by $X$, it basically means that any fraction in $I^e$ can be expanded by $Y$ to kill the numerator. Therefore every element in $I^e$ is zero, and $I^e$ is the zero ideal. $\endgroup$
    – Arthur
    Commented Sep 11, 2015 at 13:33
  • $\begingroup$ I don't understand. $X \to X/1 $ is zero in $R_p$, so $X/1$ is in $I^e$ and so $X \in I^{ec}$ isn't it ? $\endgroup$
    – dragoboy
    Commented Sep 11, 2015 at 13:34
  • $\begingroup$ Oh, seems I have thought about the definition of $I^{ec}$ wrongly. You're right and I will redo the answer in a couple of hours, as I need to get going right now. $\endgroup$
    – Arthur
    Commented Sep 11, 2015 at 13:37
  • $\begingroup$ @dragoboy I have now fixed my answer. Sorry it took so long. $\endgroup$
    – Arthur
    Commented Sep 13, 2015 at 7:51

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