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If $f\in C[a,b]$ and if

$$\mathrm{\int\limits_a^b}f(x)g(x)dx=0, \,\,\,\,(*)$$ for every $g\in C[a,b]$, then $f\equiv 0$.

My Approach: Since $(*)$ holds for every $g\in C[a,b]$, in particular for $g=f$, and hence $$\mathrm{\int\limits_a^b}f^2(x)dx=0,\Rightarrow f\equiv 0.$$

But in book there is a hint as: Hint: Assume $f(x_0)\neq 0 $ and use the continuity of $f$ to obtain an interval $(x_0-\delta,x_0+\delta)$ in which $\mid f(x) \mid \geq\frac{\mid f(x_0) \mid }{2}$. Then find a function $g\in C[a,b]$ for which the above integral is different from zero.

My questions:

1) Is my approach true?

2) Could you please in using this hint to solve this problem? I couldn't use it effectively.

Thanks in advance...

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    $\begingroup$ Your approach is correct, but you still need to explain why $\int_a^b f^2(x)dx = 0$ implies that $f$ must be zero. $\endgroup$
    – 5xum
    Apr 13, 2015 at 7:22
  • $\begingroup$ And it's precisley the meaning of the hint: with $g=f$, your approach will work, so now use the hint. $\endgroup$ Apr 13, 2015 at 7:26

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Your approach is correct, if you already know that $\int_a^b f^2(x)dx = 0$ implies $f=0$, then your proof is complete. However, the theorem that $\int_a^b f(x)dx =0 $ implies $f=0$ is typically a corollary of this result, so to avoid circular reasoning you should be comfortable giving a proof of this result. In fact, the proofs of these two results are essentially the same.

By contraposition, let's consider that $f(x_0) \neq 0$. Without loss, assume $f(x_0) > 0$, otherwise consider $-f$. By continuity we can show that $f > 0$ on a closed ball $B$ around $x_0$. Then since $f$ is continuous and $B$ is compact, $f$ achieves a minimum on $B$. But $m:=\min_B f > 0$, since $f(x_0)>0$. Choose a $g$ which is zero outsize of $B$ and $1$ on a ball $B_2$ of half the size of $B$. Then $$ \int_a^b f(x)g(x)dx = \int_{B_2} f(x)g(x)dx = \int_{B_2} f(x)dx \geq \int_{B_2}m dx = m |B_2| >0 $$ where $|B_2|$ denotes the length of the ball (interval). Thus we have shown that if $f(x_0)\neq 0$, we can find a $g$ with $\int_a^b f(x)g(x)dx \neq 0$.

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  • $\begingroup$ the function $g$ is not in $C[a,b]$ right? $\endgroup$
    – math
    Apr 13, 2015 at 7:43
  • $\begingroup$ You should choose $g \in C[a,b]$. You can construct such a $g$ piecewise like _/-----\_ $\endgroup$
    – nullUser
    Apr 13, 2015 at 7:45
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Another approach is to use the first mean value theorem for integration. Assuming there is a $x_{0} $ such that $f\left(x_{0}\right)>0 $, so there exist a interval $\left(x_{0}-\epsilon,x_{0}+\epsilon\right) $ such that $f\left(x\right)>0 $ for all $x\in\left(x_{0}-\epsilon,x_{0}+\epsilon\right). $ So we take a continuous function $g $ such that $g\left(x\right)>0 $ for all $x\in\left(x_{0}-\epsilon,x_{0}+\epsilon\right) $ and $0 $ otherwise. We have that exists a $c\in\left(x_{0}-\epsilon,x_{0}+\epsilon\right) $ such that $$0=\int_{a}^{b}f\left(x\right)g\left(x\right)dx=\int_{x_{0}-\epsilon}^{x_{0}+\epsilon}f\left(x\right)g\left(x\right)dx=2\epsilon f\left(c\right)g\left(c\right)>0 $$ which is absurd.

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