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I saw an example of two separate events happening distance per time. 1) a train was accelerating at $ t^2 $ i.e., $ f(t) = t^2 $ and, 2) inside the train a man was moving forward at $ .01t $, i.e., $ f(t) = .01t $ and the equation given was then

$ f(t) = t^2 + .01t $

Can I think of this as function addition, i.e. adding two separate functions together -- like in all the beginning math textbooks when they show composition? e.g.:

$ f(t) = 3t^2 - 4 $ and $ g(t) = 4t + 5 $

$ \Rightarrow $

$ (f + g)(t) = 3t^2 +4t + 1 $

It seems like any polynomial $ f(x) = c_1x^n + c_2x^{n-1} + \dots c_nx $ can be taken apart into individual functions. True? I've only seen simple things like this train example and typical stuff like figuring profit when you sell at $ 9.5x $ but have to consider costs like $ - 2x - 1500_{startup} $ for the final calculation $ f(x) = 7.5x - 1500_{startup}$.

But in the train example, just looking at $ f(t) = t^2 + .01t $ doesn't tell me that the $ .01t $ term is the deciding, germane thing. From the description I know that we're dealing with the man's total speed, i.e., the train's plus his speed. But again, it's not so obvious, other than the obvious fact that we're adding up components.

Now, how would you express a situation where the man is walking forward in the train and throwing a ball forward? What is the ball's total speed? I'm guessing Galileo's parabola equation would have to be included here -- specifically for the horizontal component. Not sure how, though. In general, can anyone point me to non-trivial examples of function compositing?

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  • $\begingroup$ Are you asking for application of function add in physics? $\endgroup$
    – Arashium
    Feb 14, 2015 at 17:15
  • $\begingroup$ Is "compositing" different from composition? Function composition usually refers to taking the value of a function and plugging it into another function (i.e. f(g(x))) $\endgroup$ Feb 14, 2015 at 17:20
  • $\begingroup$ You can think of a function as just a name for a mathematical expression, so you could cite pretty much anything with a plus sign as a sum of functions. It's a very general concept. $\endgroup$ Feb 14, 2015 at 17:24

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Here's how I teach the equivalent in my 12th grade Physics class. This applies to vectors of any numbers of dimension, not just one dimension as in your examples.

Let $s_{ab}$ be the position vector of object $a$ relative to object $b$, $s_{bc}$ be the position vector of object $b$ relative to object $c$, and so on. Then we get these equations for comparing frames of reference:

$$s_{ab}=-s_{ba}$$ $$s_{ab}+s_{bc}=s_{ac}$$

Taking derivatives with respect to time, we get similar equations for velocities and accelerations.

So in the example of your train $t$, man $m$, ball $b$, and earth $e$, we get

$$s_{be}=s_{bm}+s_{mt}+s_{te}$$

I.e. the position of the ball relative to the earth equals the balls position relative to the man plus the man's position relative to the train plus the train's position relative to the earth. The same sum applies to their velocities.

Any position, velocity, or acceleration is relative to some frame of reference. Usually it is obvious which frames are meant, but not always. These equations help to keep things straight.

Does that answer some of your questions?

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  • $\begingroup$ After a math and physics super-minor many years ago, I wandered (lost?) in the programming world for an entire career. And now all of my math and physics has become a vague memory. From what you're saying, it looks like the vector approach is king. So yes, I probably need a good textbook that starts from the beginning with the vector approach. Any suggestions? $\endgroup$
    – 147pm
    Feb 14, 2015 at 19:10
  • $\begingroup$ My explanation mostly comes from Holt Physics by Serway and Faughn, copyright 2006, pages 102-105. That is very brief, and I don't know of a book that goes into more depth. $\endgroup$ Feb 14, 2015 at 19:20

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