# On the Limiting Behavior of Sequences: Limit Supremums

I'm having difficulty understanding the following inequality as presented in Kenneth A Ross's Elementary Analysis: The Theory of Calculus $$(2^{nd} Edition)$$.

For a sequence $$(s_n) \in \mathbb R$$, let $$v_N$$ = $$\mathrm{sup}\{s_n : n > N\}$$.

$$v_N$$ = $$\mathrm{sup}\{s_n : n > N\}$$ $$\implies$$ $$v_1 \ge v_2 \ge v_3 ...$$

This makes half-sense to me. For $$S = \{s_n : \forall n \in \mathbb N \}$$, isn't $$\mathrm{sup}\, S$$ universal--ie, for $$v_N$$ = $$\mathrm{sup}\{s_n : n > N\}$$, shouldn't $$v_1 = v_2 = v_3 = ...;$$ $$\,$$?

Or is my line of reasoning incorrect because a general sequence does not necessarily converge to it's supremum? The way I'm trying to think of this is by visualizing a monotonic increasing sequence on a number line (bounded above). Even though you're taking $$s_n \, \forall \, \mathrm n > \mathrm N$$ , wouldn't you still hit the same supremum? Seeing as the supremum is defined as the least upper bound, how could the least upper bound "change"

Or am I misunderstanding things because I'm not considering how general this statement is?

• What if the sequence is decreasing? Dec 13, 2014 at 22:22

But you're 'losing' points in, $v_N = \mathrm{sup}\{s_n : n > N\}$, take for example $s_n = \dfrac{1}{n}$ . Then $v_N = \dfrac{1}{N+1}$ and $v_1 \neq v_2 \neq v_3 \dots$
if $A,B$ are nonempty bounded sets of real numbers and $A \subseteq B$ then $\sup A \leq \sup B$
Because they're bounded and nonempty we have $\sup A = a$, $\sup B = b$, clearly, $b$ is an upper bound for the elements of $A$, meaning if $c \in A$, $c \leq b$, now, suppose $a > b$, then $a -b > 0$,take $\varepsilon = a-b$. By properties of $\sup$, there is some $c \in A$ such that $a - \varepsilon < c$, but this means that $b < c$, a contradiction.
And from this it follows that $v_1 \geq v_2 \geq v_3 \dots$