Pierfrancesco PierQR Aiello

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comment Pick a card from a set with the help of a dice
Yep, the "whole process" is the key that i missed in your earlier posts. Is a powerful shrewdness. About your biased coin problem, i'll think about it another time :) .
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comment Pick a card from a set with the help of a dice
Why is splitting a bad idea? Using your concept of "repeat the whole process to model a bigger dice": given two rows, first with three and the second with four cards, then do a first roll to pick a row and then reroll to pick a card. If the second roll shows a number that is greater than the number of cards in the row, repeat the whole process. So each card has 1/12 of prob, while if i repeat only the second roll (to pick the card in the row) i'll loss the equal probability.
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comment Pick a card from a set with the help of a dice
Right! I was stuck because if r>7 then i would reroll the dice only to choose again from 7 to 12 , and this doesn't work! This shrewdness will work even with the method exposed in the question (split cards in different rows).
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Ok, your explanation is quite clear. So why am i stuck with the following thought (as above, i pick the example with 7 cards)? With your method the first roll choose the first six sides or the latter six sides of the 12-sided dice with probability of 1/2, right? If yes, then we roll again to choose one of the six sides previously chosen. Each side has, then, 1/12 of prob. , this is ok for me; but if i consider the condition of "usefull throw" i have: $ P(a \mod 2 = 0)P(b \in 1,...,6 | b \ \text{can be} \in 1,...,6 ) = 1/12 $ and $ P(a \mod 2 = 1)P(b = 7 | b \in {7} ) $ no ok it's 1/12 too.
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comment Pick a card from a set with the help of a dice
i'm thinking about it (i'm unsure), thanks again.
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In the example written above the positions from one to six have a probability of $ \frac{1}{6} \cdot \frac{1}{2} $ while the seventh position has $ 1 \cdot \frac{1}{2} $ , since we don't consider others positions. Then there isn't an equal probability for each card. If i'm wrong, please tell me where. Thanks in advance!
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Ok after a night i must review my position. Even if your answer seems beautiful to me doesn't solve the problem. In fact your method it's equal to a particular arrangement of cards with the method exposed in the question. For example, with 7 cards (so in the case $ 6 < n \le 12 $), we have: one row with six cards and one with only one (instead of one row with three cards and the other with four). But in this manner it's true that all twelve position has the same probability, but these aren't all covered! So kicks in a truncated probability!
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comment Pick a card from a set with the help of a dice
@dtldarek maybe i didn't get your point sorry. if i understand you said: first throw choose if we consider only the odd or even cards [given seven cards]. Is it right? If yes, then is the same of splitting seven cards in two rows, one with three and the other with four cards.
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yes, i already think about it after your answer. Thanks!
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Nice! Anyway it seems to solve the problem with 7 cards, but with others odds numbers? 9,11,and so on? If i apply the same idea, that is: pick each 6-elements subset of 9 cards, there are $ \binom{9}{6} $ possible subsets (IIRC), that is quite a lot.
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thanks for answers. Filmor brought a good argument (even if i'm a Gauss fan here xD ) and now i'm reading the link about arcsin.
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