If iterated exponentiation (usually also called "Powertower") is understood as mathematical operator or as function depending on the iteration height, then this operator/operation/function is often called "tetration" and is assumed as next step in the operator hierarchy addition,multiplication, ...

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Can $x^{x^{x^x}}$ be a rational number?

If $x$ is a positive rational number, but not an integer, then can $x^{x^{x^x}}$ be a rational number ? We can prove that if $x$ is a positive rational number but not an integer, then $x^x$ can ...
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Are the solutions of $x^{x^{x^{x^{\cdot^{{\cdot}^{\cdot}}}}}}=2$ correct?

Problem: Find $x$ in $$\large x^{x^{x^{x^{ \cdot^{{\cdot}^{\cdot}} }}}}=2$$ Trick: $x^{x^{x^{x^{\cdot^{{\cdot}^{\cdot}}}}}}=2$, so, $x^{(x^{x^{x^{\cdot^{{\cdot}^{\cdot}}}}})}=x^2=2$, and, ...
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Why are addition and multiplication commutative, but not exponentiation?

We know that the addition and multiplication operators are both commutative, and the exponentiation operator is not. My question is why. As background there are plenty of mathematical schemes that ...
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How do I calculate the 2nd term of continued fraction for the power tower ${^5}e=e^{e^{e^{e^{e}}}}$

I need to find the 2nd term of continued fraction for the power tower ${^5}e=e^{e^{e^{e^{e}}}}$ ( i.e. $\lfloor\{e^{e^{e^{e^{e}}}}\}^{-1}\rfloor$), or even higher towers. The number is too big to ...
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Iterated exponent of $i$

WolframAlpha seems to tell me that $e^{e^{e^{e^{e^{e^{e^{e^{e^{e^{e^i}}}}}}}}}} = 1$, see link. Is this just an error or is it for real? Adding one more $e$ to the bottom of the tower gives me the ...
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Is there a natural way to extend repeated exponentiation beyond integers?

This question has been in my mind since high school. We can get multiplication of natural numbers by repeated addition; equivalently, if we define $f$ recursively by $f(1)=m$ and $f(n+1)=f(n)+m$, ...
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Seems that I just proved $2=4$.

Solving $x^{x^{x^{.^{.^.}}}}=2\Rightarrow x^2=2\Rightarrow x=\sqrt 2$. Solving $x^{x^{x^{.^{.^.}}}}=4\Rightarrow x^4=4\Rightarrow x=\sqrt 2$. Therefore, $\sqrt 2^{\sqrt 2^{\sqrt 2^{.^{.^.}}}}=2$ and ...
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Infinite tetration, convergence radius

I got this problem from my teacher as a optional challenge. I am open about this being a given problem, however it is not homework. The problem is stated as follows. Assume we have an infinite ...
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$n^{th}$ derivative of a tetration function

I stumbled upon this very peculiar function last summer, namely: $f(x)=x^{x^{x^{...^{x}}}}$, where there is a number $n$ of $x$'s in the exponent, I tried to find the derivative for the function and I ...
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Explain $x^{x^{x^{{\cdots}}}} = \,\,3$

$$x^{x^{x^{\cdot^{\cdot^{\cdot}}}}} =\quad 2$$ This equation has the answer $\sqrt{2}$ by taking $\log$ to both side. This answer is correct because I'd proved it by computing the equation repeatedly ...
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Is the positive root of the equation $x^{x^x}=2$, $x=1.47668433…$ a transcendental number?

I can prove using the Gelfond–Schneider theorem that the positive root of the equation $x^{x^x}=2$, $x=1.47668433...$ is an irrational number. Is it possible to prove it is transcendental?
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What is the derivative of ${}^xx$

How would one find: $$\frac{\mathrm d}{\mathrm dx}{}^xx?$$ where ${}^ba$ is defined by $${}^ba\stackrel{\mathrm{def}}{=}\underbrace{ a^{a^{\cdot^{\cdot^{\cdot^a}}}}}_{\text{$b$ times}}$$ Work so ...
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What combinatorial quantity the tetration of two natural numbers represents?

Tetration is a generalization of exponentiation in arithmetic and a part of a series of other generalized notions, Hyperoperators. Consider $m\uparrow n$ denotes the tetration of $m$ and $n$. i.e. ...
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How can I prove $\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}…}}}}=2$ [duplicate]

How can I prove $$\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}...}}}}=2$$ I don't know which method can be used for this?
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What is $i$ exponentiated to itself $i$ times?

I was just wondering about this. I searched about it on the net and found that it is called tetration and after this comes pentation and then hexation and so on so forth. I don't really understand ...
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A puzzle with powers and tetration mod n

A friend recently asked me if I could solve these three problems: (a) Prove that the sequence $ 1^1, 2^2, 3^3, \dots \pmod{3}$ in other words $\{n^n \pmod{3} \}$ is periodic, and find the length of ...
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Is it possible to prove the positive root of the equation ${^4}x=2$, $x=1.4466014324…$ is irrational?

(somewhat related to my earlier question) Let ${^n}a$ denote tetration $\underbrace{a^{a^{.^{.^{.^a}}}}}_{n \text{ times}}$ (or, defined recursively, ${^1}a=a$, ${^{n+1}}a=a^{({^n}a)}$). The ...
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Derivative of $x^{x^{\cdot^{\cdot}}}$?

The infinite tetration is defined as $$f(x)=x^{x^{\cdot^{\cdot}}}$$ This function is defined for $e^{-e} \leq x \leq e^{e-1}$. (Wikipedia image) Can one determine the derivative of this function? ...
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half iterate of $x^2+c$

I'm looking for literature on fractional iterates of $x^2+c$, where c>0. For c=0, generating the half iterate is trivial. $$h(h(x))=x^2$$ $$h(x)=x^{\sqrt{2}}$$ The question is, for $c>0,$ and ...
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How to evaluate fractional tetrations?

Recently I've come across 'tetration' in my studies of math, and I've become intrigued how they can be evaluated when the "tetration number" is not whole. For those who do not know, tetrations are the ...
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If $y=x^{x^{x^{x^{x^{.^{.^{.}}}}}}}$ then how $y=x^y$?

In questions like, find the derivative of $f(x)=x^{x^{x^{x^{x^{.^{.^{.}}}}}}}$, how can we formally show that $y=x^y$? We use this technique for all type of iterations, e.g. ...
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Complex towers: $i^{i^{i^{…}}}$

If $w = z^{z^{z^{...}}}$ converges, we can determine its value by solving $w = z^{w}$, which leads to $w = -W(-\log z))/\log z$. To be specific here, let's use $u^v = \exp(v \log u)$ for complex $u$ ...
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Prime factors of $\sum_{k=1}^{30}k^{k^k}$

I checked the prime factors of $$\sum_{k=1}^{30}k^{k^k}$$ and did not find any upto $10^8$ Are there any useful restrictions to accelerate the search ?
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Calculating 7^7^7^7^7^7^7 mod 100

What is $$\large 7^{7^{7^{7^{7^{7^7}}}}} \pmod{100}$$ I'm not much of a number theorist and I saw this mentioned on the internet somewhere. Should be doable by hand.
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How to calculate $f(x)$ in $f(f(x)) = e^x$?

How would I calculate the power series of $f(x)$ if $f(f(x)) = e^x$? Is there a faster-converging method than power series for fractional iteration/functional square roots?
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Largest $x$ such that the power tower (tetration) $x^{x^{x^{x^{…}}}}$ converges? [duplicate]

Possible Duplicate: Infinite tetration, convergence radius Recently in this thread, Pseudo Proofs that are intuitively reasonable, I learned that ...
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Do the last digits of exponential towers really converge to a fixed sequence?

While fooling around with exponential towers I noticed something odd: $$ 3^{3} \equiv 2\underline{7} \mod 100000 $$ $$ 3^{3^{3}} \equiv 849\underline{87} \mod 100000 $$ $$ 3^{3^{3^{3}}} \equiv ...
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Prime factor of $2 \uparrow \uparrow 4 + 3\uparrow \uparrow 4$

I checked the prime factors of $$2 \uparrow \uparrow 4 + 3\uparrow \uparrow 4 = 2^{2^{2^2}} + 3^{3^{3^3}}$$ with trial division and found non below $8*10^9$ Nevertheless, the given number has still ...
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Example of Tetration in Natural Phenomena

Tetration is a natural extension of the concept of addition, multiplication, and exponentiation. It is quite obvious that there are things in the physics world which can be modeled by these 3 lowest ...
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Uniqueness of Tetration

Let $f(0)=1$ and $f(x+1)=2^{f(x)}$ Also let f be infinitely differentiable. Then does f exist and is it unique? If f is merely continuous, then any continuous function such that f(0)=1 f(1)=2 ...
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Solutions of $f(f(z)) = e^z$

It is my impression that if we find a function f(z) that satisfies $$f(f(z)) = e^z $$ there is only one point z that satisfies the relation. This dawned on me when I noticed that the pesky z that ...
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Prove that $F_{2n}(x)=0$ has exactly one root in the interval $x\in(0,1),$ and this root $\to 0$ when $n \to \infty.$

Define $f_1(x)=x,f_2(x)=x^x,\dots f_{n+1}(x)=x^{f_n(x)}~(n\geq 1).$ Let $F_n(x)=f_n^{'}(x).$ Hence $F_1(x)=1, F_2(x)=x^x(1+\log(x))\dots.$ Prove that $F_{2n}(x)=0$ has exactly one root in the ...
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Is ${^5\pi}$ an integer? [duplicate]

Possible Duplicate: How to show $e^{e^{e^{79}}}$ is not an integer Is ${^5\pi}$ an integer? It is "obviously" not, right? But can we prove it? Here ${^5\pi}$ means the result of tetration ...
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Last few digits of $n^{n^{n^{\cdot^{\cdot^{\cdot^n}}}}}$

I want to compute last few digts (as much as possible ) of the following number $$ N:=n^{n^{n^{\cdot^{\cdot^{\cdot^n}}}}}\!\!\!\hspace{5 mm}\mbox{ if there are $k$ many $n$'s in the expression and ...
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radius of convergence of half iterate of sinh(z)?

The half iterate of sinh(z) has a formal power series, centered around z=0. Does the formal power series for the half iterate converge at the origin? This is equivalent to asking if the half iterate ...
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Finding solutions to $ x^x = 2x$

A friend claims it isn't possible to find a closed form for the smaller positive real solution of $x^x = 2x$. Numerically we have seen that $0.346...$ and $2$ are solutions, but are failing to do ...
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Tetration limit

For each $n$, define $f_n:\mathbb R^+\rightarrow \mathbb R^+$ by $f_n(x) = \underbrace{x^{x^{x^{...^{x^x}}}}}_n$ Is it true that $\lim\limits_{n \to \infty} f_n(\frac{n+1}{n}) = 1$ ? A few ...
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How to define $A\uparrow B$ with a universal property as well as $A\oplus B$, $A\times B$, $A^B$ in category theory?

In category theory there are definitions for $A\oplus B$, $A\times B$ and $A^B$ via universal properties. I wonder if it is possible to isolate a particular universal property to represent the ...
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Definite integral of tetration between $0$ and $1$

In my old writes I found next formula, where is ${_{}^2}x$ is tetration: $$\int_0^1 {_{}^2}x \ dx = \sum\limits_{i=1}^\infty \frac {(-1)^{i+1}} {{_{}^2}i} \approx 0.783430511\ldots$$ And now I am ...
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Notation for n-ary exponentiation

We have $n$-ary sums ($\sum$) and products ($\prod$). Is there an $n$-ary exponentiation operator? $$\underset{i=1}{\overset{n}{\LARGE{\text{E}}}}\, x_i = x_1 \text{^} (x_2 \text{^} (\cdots \text{^} ...
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$2 \uparrow^n 2 = 4$ and the magnificence of $2$

I was reading up on tetration when I realized: $$2 \uparrow\uparrow 2 = 2\uparrow 2 = 2 \times 2 = 2+2 =4$$ Infact, when generally speaking: $$ 2 \uparrow^n 2 =4$$ Now, I realize that this is because ...
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Calculating $a^n\pmod m$ in the general case

It is well known, that $$a^{\phi(m)}\equiv1\pmod m ,$$ if $\gcd(a,m)=1.$ So, $a^n\pmod m$ can be calculated by reducing n modulo $\phi(m)$. But, for the tetration modulo $m$ $$a \uparrow ...
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Which precision would be needed?

According to Wikipedia, it is not known whether the number $$\pi \uparrow \uparrow 4$$ is an integer. (See Tetration) To which precision would $\pi$ have to be calculated to decide this ? The ...
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Knuth's up arrow notation

Given n, how can the number m with $10 \uparrow \uparrow m < 2 \uparrow \uparrow n < 10 \uparrow \uparrow (m+1)$ be calculated ? With induction, I got $10 \uparrow \uparrow m < 2 ...
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Calculating the residue of power towers

I want to calculate the residue of a power tower. How do I do that? For example, I want to know the answer to this: $$2 \uparrow\uparrow 10 \pmod{10^9}$$
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Interpolation between iterated logarithms

I am investigating the family of functions $$\log_{(n)}(x):=\log\circ \cdots \circ \log(x)$$ Is there a known smooth interpolation function $H(\alpha, x)$ such that $H(n,x)=\log_{(n)}(x)$ for ...
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Operators - sums, products, exponents, etc.

$(x + x + \cdots + x)$, where $x$ added $n$ times can be written as $x * n$. $(x * x * \cdots * x)$, where $x$ multiplied $n$ times can be written as $x ^ n$. Is there an operator, such that if ...
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Does infinite tetration of negative numbers converge for any value other than -1?

Okay, so I know that for positive values, $^{\infty}x$ converges to $-\frac{W(-\ln x)}{\ln x}$ for $e^{-e}\le x \le e^{\frac1e}$. Above that, it diverges. For positive values less than $e^{-e}$, any ...
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Tetration of Alephs

Does this even mean anything? $\underbrace{x^{x^{x^{...^{x^x}}}}}_n$ Where $n = \aleph_0$? Because I "know" it converges when (say) $x = .5$ and $n \to \infty$
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Super logarithmic inverse of tetration

What's the super logarithmic inverse of tetration for $\bf{^{2}{x}}$? Is it $slog^{x}_{2}$?