If iterated exponentiation (usually also called "Powertower") is understood as mathematical operator or as function depending on the iteration height, then this operator/operation/function is often called "tetration" and is assumed as next step in the operator hierarchy addition,multiplication, ...

learn more… | top users | synonyms

11
votes
1answer
156 views

Prime factors of $\sum_{k=1}^{30}k^{k^k}$

I checked the prime factors of $$\sum_{k=1}^{30}k^{k^k}$$ and did not find any upto $10^8$ Are there any useful restrictions to accelerate the search ?
4
votes
1answer
103 views

Solving for $a$ in power tower equation

$$n=a^{(a+1)^{(a+2)^{(a+3)\cdots}}}$$ How would one go about solving in this equation? I am more used to solving equations in this form: $$n=a^{a^{a^{a\cdots}}}$$ Which you solve in this form: ...
5
votes
2answers
327 views

Algorithm for tetration to work with floating point numbers

So far, I've figured out an algorithm for tetration that works. However, although the variable a can be floating or integer, unfortunately, the variable ...
11
votes
2answers
250 views

Proof of strictly increasing nature of $y(x)=x^{x^{x^{\ldots}}}$ on $[1,e^{\frac{1}{e}})$?

The title is fairly self explanatory: I have been trying to rigorously prove that $y(x)=x^{x^{x^{\ldots}}}$ is a strictly increasing function over the interval $[1,e^{\frac{1}{e}})$ for a while now, ...
3
votes
0answers
60 views

Super root function [closed]

Super root is an invertion of tetration. Lets define $f(x) = \sqrt[x]{x}_s$. Definition makes sense when x is integer. Is there an extension of this function to real numbers? Similar how Gamma ...
1
vote
1answer
278 views

Limit involving tetration

Let the notation be $a^{\wedge\wedge}b = \underbrace{a^{a^{\cdot^{\cdot^{a}}}}}_{b\,times}$ for tetration. My mentor conjectured the following: Let $n$ be a positive integer, then let $A(n)$ be ...
4
votes
3answers
148 views

Is this a valid proof for ${x^{x^{x^{x^{x^{\dots}}}}}} = y$?

So I got this challenge from my teacher. Solve ${x^{x^{x^{x^{x^{\dots}}}}}} = y$ (eq. 1) for $x$. My attempt: As $x^{y^z}$ per definition equals $x^{y \cdot z}$, then $x^y = y$ from (eq. 1). ...
0
votes
2answers
74 views

How to prove that $x\uparrow \uparrow 1/2 = \sqrt x_s$

This may be a stupid question but when we work with exponentiation we can see that $x^{\frac 12}=\sqrt x$ because: $x^{\frac 12}\times x^{\frac 12}=x^{\frac 12+\frac 12}=x^1=x$ and $\sqrt x \times ...
1
vote
1answer
98 views

After Exponentials

Look at this- $$f(a,b)=a+b$$ The next step would be to make a function $g$ such that $$g(a,b)=\underbrace{a + a + a \cdots}_{b\text{ times}}=a\cdot b$$ Then we made $h$ so that ...
2
votes
1answer
173 views

Tetration and its inverse to various exponents

I've recently seen in my studies tetration, or the next operation in the addition, multiplication, exponentation... series. I've also heard much discussion about how to extend this operation to ...
3
votes
1answer
127 views

The Physical Meaning of Tetration with fractional power tower

I've read a passage in the forum about tetration and had do some research on Wiki. I understand the basic defination for any real height n>-2, $$^na=a^{a^{a^{a}}}...\text{, for real height =n}$$ I ...
7
votes
2answers
353 views

Continuum between addition, multiplication and exponentiation?

I noticed this old post which attempts to find the shades of grey between a linear and log scale where results are between zero and one. However, I was looking for the more general case where we find ...
8
votes
1answer
233 views

A problem in understanding infinite towers (tetration)

To solve equations involving power towers (infinite tetration) we usually do something like this: $$x^{x^{x^{x^{\dots}}}} =k$$ $$x^{(x^{x^{x^{\dots}}})} =k$$ $$x^k=k$$ $$x=\sqrt[k]k$$ But what if ...
97
votes
1answer
20k views

Can $x^{x^{x^x}}$ be a rational number?

If $x$ is a positive rational number, but not an integer, then can $x^{x^{x^x}}$ be a rational number ? We can prove that if $x$ is a positive rational number but not an integer, then $x^x$ can ...
0
votes
0answers
65 views

Inverse and named fixed values, with ↑↑?

The inverse of $+$ is $-$, of $\times$ is $/$ and of $\text{^}$ is Log. Continuing upwards hyperoperationally, what is the inverse of $↑↑$? Whats more somtimes values that are fixed are given ...
2
votes
1answer
55 views

Last Digits of a Tetration

I was studying tetrations, or "power towers", and I found a decently well-known fact. The last $k-1$ digits of $^k 3 = 3^{3^{\vdots^{3}}} (k \text{ threes)}$ remain constant, for all numbers $^a 3$ ...
1
vote
1answer
70 views

Graham's number of layer 1 tetration explanation?

I have a question on how the number of the first layer of the Graham's number ($g_1$) is computed. From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham%27s_number#Magnitude $g_1 = ...
2
votes
1answer
110 views

For what values does $x^{x^{x^{x^{.^{.^{.}}}}}}$ make sense [duplicate]

For which values of $x\ge 1$ does the expression $x^{x^{x^{x^{.^{.^{.}}}}}}$ make sense? To tackle this, define $f_1(x)=x$ and $f_{n+1}(x)=x^{f_n(x)}$ for $x \ge 1$ and $n\ge1$. a) Show that ...
2
votes
1answer
93 views

What number tetrated by itself equals a googol?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetration Tetrating stuff makes it really big really fast. I'm trying to figure out what number would equal a googol. Any help? Or a googolplex ?
4
votes
0answers
71 views

Growth of $n!!\dots !$

The asymptotic growth of the factorial function $n!$ is famously given by Stirling's formula as $$n! \sim \sqrt{2 \pi n}\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n$$ Is there a similar formula for the iterated ...
1
vote
0answers
89 views

How to differentiate $(x!)\uparrow\uparrow(!x)$?

I need help in differentiating the following expression with respect to x, which I recently came up with when trying to differentiate expressions involving subfactorials... ...
7
votes
2answers
135 views

Do the last digits of exponential towers really converge to a fixed sequence?

While fooling around with exponential towers I noticed something odd: $$ 3^{3} \equiv 2\underline{7} \mod 100000 $$ $$ 3^{3^{3}} \equiv 849\underline{87} \mod 100000 $$ $$ 3^{3^{3^{3}}} \equiv ...
22
votes
4answers
2k views

Seems that I just proved $2=4$.

Solving $x^{x^{x^{.^{.^.}}}}=2\Rightarrow x^2=2\Rightarrow x=\sqrt 2$. Solving $x^{x^{x^{.^{.^.}}}}=4\Rightarrow x^4=4\Rightarrow x=\sqrt 2$. Therefore, $\sqrt 2^{\sqrt 2^{\sqrt 2^{.^{.^.}}}}=2$ and ...
59
votes
4answers
4k views

Are the solutions of $x^{x^{x^{x^{\cdot^{{\cdot}^{\cdot}}}}}}=2$ correct?

Problem: Find $x$ in $$\large x^{x^{x^{x^{ \cdot^{{\cdot}^{\cdot}} }}}}=2$$ Trick: $x^{x^{x^{x^{\cdot^{{\cdot}^{\cdot}}}}}}=2$, so, $x^{(x^{x^{x^{\cdot^{{\cdot}^{\cdot}}}}})}=x^2=2$, and, ...
5
votes
2answers
638 views

Last few digits of $n^{n^{n^{\cdot^{\cdot^{\cdot^n}}}}}$

I want to compute last few digts (as much as possible ) of the following number $$ N:=n^{n^{n^{\cdot^{\cdot^{\cdot^n}}}}}\!\!\!\hspace{5 mm}\mbox{ if there are $k$ many $n$'s in the expression and ...
23
votes
2answers
2k views

Is there a natural way to extend repeated exponentiation beyond integers?

This question has been in my mind since high school. We can get multiplication of natural numbers by repeated addition; equivalently, if we define $f$ recursively by $f(1)=m$ and $f(n+1)=f(n)+m$, ...
3
votes
0answers
69 views

Is there a notation for exponentiation analog to capital-sigma notation Σ for addition and capital pi Π notation for multiplications?

There are the following common notations: Sums: $$\sum_{i=2}^4 i = 2 + 3 + 4 = 9$$ Products: $$\prod_{i=2}^4 i = 2\times 3\times 4 = 24$$ Is there a (theoretical) one for: Exponentiation ...
2
votes
1answer
37 views

How to prove that a tetration holds the same last digit after a certain rank?

Let's say $u_{n} = 7^{u_{n-1}}$ and $u_{0} = 7$, how can we prove that for $n > 0$, that we will get the same last digit? I know that the last digit of $7^7$ is 3, we can prove it using ...
0
votes
1answer
54 views

Which one is greater?

For any $x\in\mathbb{R}^+$, let $x\diamond 1=x$ and $x\diamond (n+1) = x^{x\diamond n}$ for $n\in\mathbb{N}$. For example, $2\diamond 3 = 2^{2^2}=16$. If $t$ be an unique positive real number such ...
3
votes
3answers
196 views

How can I solve this equation $x^{x^{x^{x^{.^{.^{.}}}}}}-a=0$

I always use the Newton-Raphson Method if I want to find the roots of any equation as follow $$x_{1}=x_{0}-\frac{y_{0}}{y'_{0}}$$ But I don't know how to use this method if the equation takes the ...
0
votes
0answers
86 views

In terms of addition, multiplication, exponentiation, tetration, what would be the natural continuation here?

Consider the by addition recursively defined table: $$t(n,1)=1$$ If $n>=k$ $$t(n,k)=\sum _{i=1}^{k-1} t(n-i,k-1)-\sum _{i=1}^{k-1} t(n-i,k)$$ else $$t(n,k)=0$$ Then consider the similar but by ...
5
votes
2answers
128 views

Finding solutions to $ x^x = 2x$

A friend claims it isn't possible to find a closed form for the smaller positive real solution of $x^x = 2x$. Numerically we have seen that $0.346...$ and $2$ are solutions, but are failing to do ...
12
votes
2answers
581 views

Derivative of $x^{x^{\cdot^{\cdot}}}$?

The infinite tetration is defined as $$f(x)=x^{x^{\cdot^{\cdot}}}$$ This function is defined for $e^{-e} \leq x \leq e^{e-1}$. (Wikipedia image) Can one determine the derivative of this function? ...
1
vote
0answers
54 views

complex and decimal tetration

So recently in the blog post on tetration, it talked about tetration with nice clean powers (calling them these because I don't know the right term). But how does it work when given a complex power? ...
1
vote
2answers
91 views

A peculiar observation about infinity.

Let ${\sqrt2^\sqrt2}^{\sqrt2^...}=y$. Then $\sqrt 2^y=y$ $\implies \sqrt 2=y^{1/y}$ $\implies \sqrt 2 =1$ $\implies 2 =1$ !! but how come that be. Can anyone explain this and point out what is ...
8
votes
3answers
707 views

How to calculate $f(x)$ in $f(f(x)) = e^x$?

How would I calculate the power series of $f(x)$ if $f(f(x)) = e^x$? Is there a faster-converging method than power series for fractional iteration/functional square roots?
15
votes
3answers
335 views

How can I prove $\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}…}}}}=2$ [duplicate]

How can I prove $$\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}...}}}}=2$$ I don't know which method can be used for this?
2
votes
0answers
34 views

Which primes satisfy this modular property?

Let $x$ be a residue$\mod p$ where $p$ is an odd prime. Im searching for such $p$ such that there exists a function $f(x)$ with propery $f(f(x)) - 2^x \equiv 0 \mod p $ for all values of $x$. I ...
2
votes
0answers
62 views

Tetrations of non-integers? [duplicate]

A Tetration is defined as $${^{n}a} = \underbrace{a^{a^{\cdot^{\cdot^{a}}}}}_n$$ or, by a recursion function, $${^{n}a} := \begin{cases} 1 &\text{if }n=0 \\ a^{\left[^{(n-1)}a\right]} ...
19
votes
3answers
372 views

What combinatorial quantity the tetration of two natural numbers represents?

Tetration is a generalization of exponentiation in arithmetic and a part of a series of other generalized notions, Hyperoperators. Consider $m\uparrow n$ denotes the tetration of $m$ and $n$. i.e. ...
0
votes
2answers
70 views

Is there an inverse operation of tetration for values between 0 and .3?

So I don't understand everything with tetration, but the graph of $^2x$ or $x^x$ does not have any values between 0 and .3 on the y axis. So if we were to trying inverse tetration on say .2 what is ...
5
votes
1answer
129 views

How to define $A\uparrow B$ with a universal property as well as $A\oplus B$, $A\times B$, $A^B$ in category theory?

In category theory there are definitions for $A\oplus B$, $A\times B$ and $A^B$ via universal properties. I wonder if it is possible to isolate a particular universal property to represent the ...
8
votes
3answers
1k views

Calculating 7^7^7^7^7^7^7 mod 100

What is $$\large 7^{7^{7^{7^{7^{7^7}}}}} \pmod{100}$$ I'm not much of a number theorist and I saw this mentioned on the internet somewhere. Should be doable by hand.
20
votes
3answers
996 views

Explain $x^{x^{x^{{\cdots}}}} = \,\,3$

$$x^{x^{x^{\cdot^{\cdot^{\cdot}}}}} =\quad 2$$ This equation has the answer $\sqrt{2}$ by taking $\log$ to both side. This answer is correct because I'd proved it by computing the equation repeatedly ...
1
vote
1answer
102 views

Iteration of $x \to x^x$

If $u(x)=x^x$ then we can form $$ u^2(x) = \left(x^x \right)^{x^x} = x^{x^{x+1}} $$ some simplification occurs, but the further iterates are a typographical challenge to mathjax. Writing $E_k$ for ...
18
votes
2answers
694 views

What is the derivative of ${}^xx$

How would one find: $$\frac{\mathrm d}{\mathrm dx}{}^xx?$$ where ${}^ba$ is defined by $${}^ba\stackrel{\mathrm{def}}{=}\underbrace{ a^{a^{\cdot^{\cdot^{\cdot^a}}}}}_{\text{$b$ times}}$$ Work so ...
3
votes
1answer
118 views

Is there a closed form for the inverse of $y=x^{x^x}$?

It's pretty well known, and easy to derive, that $y=x^x$ has the inverse $y=\frac{\ln x}{W(\ln x)}$. I've had no luck trying to work out the inverse of any larger power towers, though. Is there any ...
2
votes
1answer
56 views

Convergence of an infinite power

There are complex numbers $z$ and $w$ for which $$\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}z\uparrow\uparrow n=w$$ where $\uparrow\uparrow$ is the tetration symbol, e.g. $z=\sqrt{2}$ and $w=2$. Are there complex ...
3
votes
3answers
363 views

How to differentiate $\lim\limits_{n\to\infty}\underbrace{x^{x^{x^{…}}}}_{n\text{ times}}$? [duplicate]

Let $$f(x)=\lim\limits_{n\to\infty}\underbrace{x^{x^{x^{...}}}}_{n\text{ times}}$$ Is it possible to find $f'(x)$. If yes, please show all steps.
1
vote
1answer
85 views

Is it true that ${^\infty}{\sqrt[x]{x}} = x$

I was fiddling around with tetration and I stumbled across an interesting idea, ${^\infty}{\sqrt[x]{x}}$. I messed around with the concept a little bit and I had the following idea: Let ${^\infty}y = ...