If iterated exponentiation (usually also called "Powertower") is understood as mathematical operator or as function depending on the iteration height, then this operator/operation/function is often called "tetration" and is assumed as next step in the operator hierarchy addition,multiplication, ...

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A problem in understanding infinite towers (tetration)

To solve equations involving power towers (infinite tetration) we usually do something like this: $$x^{x^{x^{x^{\dots}}}} =k$$ $$x^{(x^{x^{x^{\dots}}})} =k$$ $$x^k=k$$ $$x=\sqrt[k]k$$ But what if ...
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Algorithm for tetration to work with floating point numbers

So far, I've figured out an algorithm for tetration that works. However, although the variable a can be floating or integer, unfortunately, the variable ...
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Inverse and named fixed values, with ↑↑?

The inverse of $+$ is $-$, of $\times$ is $/$ and of $\text{^}$ is Log. Continuing upwards hyperoperationally, what is the inverse of $↑↑$? Whats more somtimes values that are fixed are given ...
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Last Digits of a Tetration

I was studying tetrations, or "power towers", and I found a decently well-known fact. The last $k-1$ digits of $^k 3 = 3^{3^{\vdots^{3}}} (k \text{ threes)}$ remain constant, for all numbers $^a 3$ ...
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Graham's number of layer 1 tetration explanation?

I have a question on how the number of the first layer of the Graham's number ($g_1$) is computed. From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graham%27s_number#Magnitude $g_1 = ...
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For what values does $x^{x^{x^{x^{.^{.^{.}}}}}}$ make sense [duplicate]

For which values of $x\ge 1$ does the expression $x^{x^{x^{x^{.^{.^{.}}}}}}$ make sense? To tackle this, define $f_1(x)=x$ and $f_{n+1}(x)=x^{f_n(x)}$ for $x \ge 1$ and $n\ge1$. a) Show that ...
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What number tetrated by itself equals a googol?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tetration Tetrating stuff makes it really big really fast. I'm trying to figure out what number would equal a googol. Any help? Or a googolplex ?
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Growth of $n!!\dots !$

The asymptotic growth of the factorial function $n!$ is famously given by Stirling's formula as $$n! \sim \sqrt{2 \pi n}\left(\frac{n}{e}\right)^n$$ Is there a similar formula for the iterated ...
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Do the last digits of exponential towers really converge to a fixed sequence?

While fooling around with exponential towers I noticed something odd: $$ 3^{3} \equiv 2\underline{7} \mod 100000 $$ $$ 3^{3^{3}} \equiv 849\underline{87} \mod 100000 $$ $$ 3^{3^{3^{3}}} \equiv ...
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How to differentiate $(x!)\uparrow\uparrow(!x)$?

I need help in differentiating the following expression with respect to x, which I recently came up with when trying to differentiate expressions involving subfactorials... ...
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Is there a notation for exponentiation analog to capital-sigma notation Σ for addition and capital pi Π notation for multiplications?

There are the following common notations: Sums: $$\sum_{i=2}^4 i = 2 + 3 + 4 = 9$$ Products: $$\prod_{i=2}^4 i = 2\times 3\times 4 = 24$$ Is there a (theoretical) one for: Exponentiation ...
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How to prove that a tetration holds the same last digit after a certain rank?

Let's say $u_{n} = 7^{u_{n-1}}$ and $u_{0} = 7$, how can we prove that for $n > 0$, that we will get the same last digit? I know that the last digit of $7^7$ is 3, we can prove it using ...
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Which one is greater?

For any $x\in\mathbb{R}^+$, let $x\diamond 1=x$ and $x\diamond (n+1) = x^{x\diamond n}$ for $n\in\mathbb{N}$. For example, $2\diamond 3 = 2^{2^2}=16$. If $t$ be an unique positive real number such ...
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How can I solve this equation $x^{x^{x^{x^{.^{.^{.}}}}}}-a=0$

I always use the Newton-Raphson Method if I want to find the roots of any equation as follow $$x_{1}=x_{0}-\frac{y_{0}}{y'_{0}}$$ But I don't know how to use this method if the equation takes the ...
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In terms of addition, multiplication, exponentiation, tetration, what would be the natural continuation here?

Consider the by addition recursively defined table: $$t(n,1)=1$$ If $n>=k$ $$t(n,k)=\sum _{i=1}^{k-1} t(n-i,k-1)-\sum _{i=1}^{k-1} t(n-i,k)$$ else $$t(n,k)=0$$ Then consider the similar but by ...
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Finding solutions to $ x^x = 2x$

A friend claims it isn't possible to find a closed form for the smaller positive real solution of $x^x = 2x$. Numerically we have seen that $0.346...$ and $2$ are solutions, but are failing to do ...
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complex and decimal tetration

So recently in the blog post on tetration, it talked about tetration with nice clean powers (calling them these because I don't know the right term). But how does it work when given a complex power? ...
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A peculiar observation about infinity.

Let ${\sqrt2^\sqrt2}^{\sqrt2^...}=y$. Then $\sqrt 2^y=y$ $\implies \sqrt 2=y^{1/y}$ $\implies \sqrt 2 =1$ $\implies 2 =1$ !! but how come that be. Can anyone explain this and point out what is ...
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How can I prove $\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}…}}}}=2$ [duplicate]

How can I prove $$\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}...}}}}=2$$ I don't know which method can be used for this?
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Which primes satisfy this modular property?

Let $x$ be a residue$\mod p$ where $p$ is an odd prime. Im searching for such $p$ such that there exists a function $f(x)$ with propery $f(f(x)) - 2^x \equiv 0 \mod p $ for all values of $x$. I ...
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Tetrations of non-integers? [duplicate]

A Tetration is defined as $${^{n}a} = \underbrace{a^{a^{\cdot^{\cdot^{a}}}}}_n$$ or, by a recursion function, $${^{n}a} := \begin{cases} 1 &\text{if }n=0 \\ a^{\left[^{(n-1)}a\right]} ...
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Is there an inverse operation of tetration for values between 0 and .3?

So I don't understand everything with tetration, but the graph of $^2x$ or $x^x$ does not have any values between 0 and .3 on the y axis. So if we were to trying inverse tetration on say .2 what is ...
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How to define $A\uparrow B$ with a universal property as well as $A\oplus B$, $A\times B$, $A^B$ in category theory?

In category theory there are definitions for $A\oplus B$, $A\times B$ and $A^B$ via universal properties. I wonder if it is possible to isolate a particular universal property to represent the ...
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What combinatorial quantity the tetration of two natural numbers represents?

Tetration is a generalization of exponentiation in arithmetic and a part of a series of other generalized notions, Hyperoperators. Consider $m\uparrow n$ denotes the tetration of $m$ and $n$. i.e. ...
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Explain $x^{x^{x^{{\cdots}}}} = \,\,3$

$$x^{x^{x^{\cdot^{\cdot^{\cdot}}}}} =\quad 2$$ This equation has the answer $\sqrt{2}$ by taking $\log$ to both side. This answer is correct because I'd proved it by computing the equation repeatedly ...
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Is there a closed form for the inverse of $y=x^{x^x}$?

It's pretty well known, and easy to derive, that $y=x^x$ has the inverse $y=\frac{\ln x}{W(\ln x)}$. I've had no luck trying to work out the inverse of any larger power towers, though. Is there any ...
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Iteration of $x \to x^x$

If $u(x)=x^x$ then we can form $$ u^2(x) = \left(x^x \right)^{x^x} = x^{x^{x+1}} $$ some simplification occurs, but the further iterates are a typographical challenge to mathjax. Writing $E_k$ for ...
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Convergence of an infinite power

There are complex numbers $z$ and $w$ for which $$\lim_{n\rightarrow\infty}z\uparrow\uparrow n=w$$ where $\uparrow\uparrow$ is the tetration symbol, e.g. $z=\sqrt{2}$ and $w=2$. Are there complex ...
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Natural examples of tetration

(Note: I am aware of this question, but this isn't a duplicate) In mathematics I know several things for which we have naturally occuring tetrational growth: first, and simpliest, is finite stages in ...
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How to differentiate $\lim\limits_{n\to\infty}\underbrace{x^{x^{x^{…}}}}_{n\text{ times}}$? [duplicate]

Let $$f(x)=\lim\limits_{n\to\infty}\underbrace{x^{x^{x^{...}}}}_{n\text{ times}}$$ Is it possible to find $f'(x)$. If yes, please show all steps.
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Is it true that ${^\infty}{\sqrt[x]{x}} = x$

I was fiddling around with tetration and I stumbled across an interesting idea, ${^\infty}{\sqrt[x]{x}}$. I messed around with the concept a little bit and I had the following idea: Let ${^\infty}y = ...
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If a uniquness for all functions exist shouldn't there be uniquness to recursion?

What I'm specifically saying is every function is definitely unique, as they may be nearly equivalent to another function, for example. Let's make a table of values for $^{x}2$ (0,1) (1,2) (2,4) ...
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Clarification on tetration

So far when I looked at tetration I noticed it had a recursive relation. It's $t_2=2^{(t_1)}.$ For example if we start at point $(0,1)$, we can take the x-value of $0$, and $2^0=1$, then we take $1$ ...
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Tetration graph for this function

I'm trying to visualize the derivatives of exponential tetration, by taking the original equation from its graph. Right now there is no elementary way of expressing the derivative. I'm not allowed to ...
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Are these correct for calculating the number of Digits

I think the following equations are correct for base 10, where each D corresponds to the number of digits in results for each operation. Dadd = Floor(Log10X) + 1 Dmul = Floor(Log10X + Log10Y)+1 ...
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A question on the equation $^qx=2$

Given the equation $$^qx=2$$ with $q\gt3$ where $^qx$ means the 'tetration' operation on $x$, my question is: is it possible to find a value for $q$ for which the solution $x$ of the equation is a ...
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Efficient algorithm for calculating the tetration of two numbers mod n?

I'm trying to study the algebraic properties of the magma created by defining the binary operation $x*y$ to be: $ x*y = (x \uparrow y) \bmod n $ where $ \uparrow $ is the symbol for tetration. ...
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Is the exact value of $^{\infty}i$ known? [duplicate]

Wikipedia's article on tetration has a table of successive tetrations of $i$ that seems to imply that $^{\infty}i$ converges, and my own experimentation seems to confirm it, but I'm suspicious of ...
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If $y=x^{x^{x^{x^{x^{.^{.^{.}}}}}}}$ then how $y=x^y$?

In questions like, find the derivative of $f(x)=x^{x^{x^{x^{x^{.^{.^{.}}}}}}}$, how can we formally show that $y=x^y$? We use this technique for all type of iterations, e.g. ...
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Does infinite tetration of negative numbers converge for any value other than -1?

Okay, so I know that for positive values, $^{\infty}x$ converges to $-\frac{W(-\ln x)}{\ln x}$ for $e^{-e}\le x \le e^{\frac1e}$. Above that, it diverges. For positive values less than $e^{-e}$, any ...
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Double exponential Taylor series $\exp(-\exp(k-ex))$

k is real constant $\gt = 1$. Is $a_n$ for $f(x)$ positive, increasing, and $\lt 1$, where $n\lt= e^{k-1}$? $$f(x) = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} a_n x^n = \exp(-\exp(k-ex))$$ $f(x)$ is the double ...
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$2 \uparrow^n 2 = 4$ and the magnificence of $2$

I was reading up on tetration when I realized: $$2 \uparrow\uparrow 2 = 2\uparrow 2 = 2 \times 2 = 2+2 =4$$ Infact, when generally speaking: $$ 2 \uparrow^n 2 =4$$ Now, I realize that this is because ...
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Appear the digits in the number $3^{3^{3^3}}$ approximately equally often?

Does the number $$3\uparrow \uparrow 4 = 3^{3^{3^3}}$$ contain the digits 0-9 approximately equally often ? With "approximately" I mean that a chi-squared test for equal distribution would produce ...
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Prime factors of $2^{2^2}+3^{3^3}+5^{5^5}+7^{7^7}$

Are there any useful restrictions to the prime factors of the number $$2^{2^2}+3^{3^3}+5^{5^5}+7^{7^7}$$ The two smallest are 6771419 and 72153167 , which I found by trial division. The number is ...
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Show that the iterated $\ln^{[n]}$ of tetration(x,n) is nowhere analytic

$$f(x) = \lim_{n\to \infty} \ln^{[n]} x \uparrow\uparrow n$$ The conjecture is that $f(x)$ is monotonic and infinitely differentiable at the real axis, but nowhere analytic; because at each point on ...
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Prime factors of $\sum_{k=1}^{30}k^{k^k}$

I checked the prime factors of $$\sum_{k=1}^{30}k^{k^k}$$ and did not find any upto $10^8$ Are there any useful restrictions to accelerate the search ?
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Comparison between two tetrations

For a given natural number n, what ist the least number m, such that $$e \uparrow \uparrow m > \pi \uparrow \uparrow n$$ It seems that m = n + 1 is the desired number. Is this true for all n ?
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Is there a proof that the number $2 \uparrow \uparrow m+3 \uparrow \uparrow n$ is always squarefree?

I searched prime factors of the numbers $$z(m,n) := 2 \uparrow \uparrow m + 3 \uparrow \uparrow n$$ where $m,n\ge1$ Interestingly, z(3,3) is prime, the largest prime I found so far and probably the ...
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Is tetration a transcendental function?

Is tetration a transcendental function? If so are there any papers with a proof? I suspect that it is because I have not seen any algebraic situations where tetration is the answer and the fact that ...
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Does $a \uparrow \uparrow (n+1)-a \uparrow \uparrow n$ divide $a \uparrow \uparrow(n+2) - a \uparrow \uparrow(n+1 )$?

Does $$a\uparrow \uparrow (n+1) - a\uparrow \uparrow n$$ divide $$a\uparrow \uparrow (n+2) - a\uparrow \uparrow (n+1)$$ for all $a,n \ge2$ ? The case n = 0 is easy : $$a^a-a=a(a^{a-1}-1)$$ and ...