Numbers not expressible as a ratio of two integers. Examples: $\sqrt{2},\phi,e,\pi,\zeta(3)$. Some of them are algebraic ($\sqrt{2},\phi$) and some transcendental ($e,\pi$).

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Chinese estimate for $\pi$. Were they lucky?

The famous chinese estimate $\pi\approx\frac{355}{113}$ is good. I think that is too good. As a continued fraction: $$\pi=[3:7,15,1,292,\ldots]$$ That $292$ is a bit too big. Is there a reason for a ...
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Do circles exist

So I was wondering about circles today and if they really do exsist. If you graph a circle in function mode, your equation looks like$$y=\sqrt{1-x^2}$$ Now for simple purposes lets take a portion of ...
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Irrationality of $\pi$ and circumference to diameter ratio.

How is $\pi$ actually defined? If it is defined as the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter then from this definition itself either of the circumference and diameter has to be ...
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Rational vs Irrational distribution

Imagine I draw a number line, and I took two points. What's the distribution of rational and irrational numbers between them? If I put it in a diagram where I color rational with a color and ...
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What Will Happen Without Decimal Expansion?

After a discussion on the complexity of decimal expansion (such as $0.\bar{9}=1$), some of my students (middle school) decided to throw away the decimal expansion of some numbers! Namely, the numbers ...
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2.71828. And then another 1828.

This may qualify as the silliest math.SE question ever, but am I really the first person ever to worry about this? The decimal expansion of $e$ has a 2. And then a 7. And then a 1828. And...well, then ...
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Rational vs irrational

If two points on a number line is shown, are rational numbers between the two points is more or irrational number is more ? I have tried using probability , my collegue who was like my teacher also ...
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Difference between density and measure

In terms of definition, I know the difference between the two. However, the set of rationals $\mathbb{Q}$ has measure zero but is dense in $\mathbb{R}$. Whenever I envision this, I see a set of ...
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Looking for name of theorem: “rational $\Leftrightarrow$ fractional part terminates or repeats”

I am looking for the name of the theorem that says that a number $x$ is rational if and only if its fractional part terminates or repeats (where "fractional part" refers to the representation of $x$ ...
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Is there any combination of numbers which upon division gives the exact number of P?

In other words, there are (probably) infinite combination of numbers/operations which leads to irrational numbers. So I wonder, if there is one which gives exact number representation of P(π)? Do we ...
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Help proving a theorem in my textbook

If $r \in \mathbb{N}$ is not a perfect square, then $\sqrt{r}$ is irrational. For reference, an integer $n$ is a perfect square if $n=m^2$ for some $m \in \mathbb{Z}$. Any help proving this ...
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Logic: Prove Log(base 9) 15 is irrational

Im having trouble with the following proof... Ill post what I have completed so far.. Prove $\log_915$ is irrational. Ill attempt by contradiction assuming $\log_915$ is rational. So, $\log_915 = ...
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Irrationality of e

I have a question about the irrationality of $e$: In proving the irrationality of $e$, one can prove the irrationality of $e^{-1}$ by using the series $$e^x = 1+x+\frac{x^2}{2!} + \cdots + ...
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The “trick” functions in the “$\pi$ is transcendental” proofs

I was reading this paper and I wondered how did Hermite decide to define a function $$f(x)=\frac{x^{p-1}(x-1)^p\cdots (x-m)^p}{(p-1)!}$$ Are these functions only tricks or there is a deeper meaning?
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Irrationality of $\displaystyle\sum_{p\in\mathbb{P}} \frac{1}{2^{p}}$

Let $\mathbb{P}$ be the set of prime numbers, and consider $m=\displaystyle\sum_{p\in\mathbb{P}} \frac{1}{2^{p}}$. Is $m$ irrational? In the following paper, the author recalls several sufficient ...
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How does one prove that $\zeta(3)$ is irrational?

How does one prove that $\zeta(3)$ is irrational ? I would like to know how Apery did it. In particular how a recursion gives rise to irrationality !?
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Does the Cantor set contain any irrational algebraic numbers?

I've been trying to characterise the irrationals in the Cantor set $\mathcal{C}$ and this is proving to be surprisingly difficult. In particular I am trying to investigate whether $\mathcal{C}$ ...
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Are there integers $a, b$ s.th. $\pi^a = e^b$?

Is $\log \pi $ a rational number? That is, are there non-zero integers $a, b$ s.th. $\pi^a = e^b$ ?
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Irrationality proof by fast converging series?

I read here http://www.mathpages.com/home/kmath455.htm that $\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{1}{d_n}$ is irrational if $d_{n+1} > d_{n}^2$ for all $n > N_0$. Can we prove $\pi$, $e$ or some other ...
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Proof of $\pi$ not being a quadratic irrational number.

Does someone know a proof (books , articles) that $\pi$ is not a quadratic irrational? The proof should not use that $\pi$ is transcendental. Any hints would be appreciated.
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Digits of two irrational numbers, given their power with fixed number of digits

I have $a, b \in \mathbb{R} \setminus \mathbb{Q}$, I want to know the result of $a^b$, but I don't know exact $a, b$ because I write them in numeric form. My question is how many digits of $a, b$ have ...
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Finding a closed expression for a calculated value.

Sometimes, when getting some numerical results when investigating number theory sequences with a computer, I find myself suspecting that a decimal value ($a$) I have found might be a quadratic ...
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Is the maximal temperature of the curlicue fractal acheived by $e\times\gamma$?

The Curlicue Fractal is defined as follows: Choose an irrational number $s$ and a horizontal unit segment with angle $\phi_0 = 0$. Define $\theta_{n+1} = \theta_{n} + 2 \pi s \pmod{2 \pi}$, with ...
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Euclidean geometry and irrational numbers.

I was wondering, given a square that is $1 \times 1$, how can we know that the diagonal is an irrational length geometrically??? We could use the Pythagorean Theorem to see that the diagonal of a ...
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Must be rational number

Let $a$, $b$ positive rational number. Suppose that there exist two odd positive integers $p$, $q$ such that $\sqrt[p]{a}+\sqrt[q]{b}$ is rational. Prove that both $\sqrt[p]{a}$ and $\sqrt[q]{b}$ are ...
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how many numbers of irrationality measure $x$

Does there exist $x>2$ such that uncountably many reals have irrationality measure x? Must there exist at least one number of irrationality measure $x$? related question on sets of constant ...
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Linear independence of reciprocals of logarithms

I would like to ask whether there is a proof of the following statement: Let $p$, $q$ be primes and $n$ positive integer coprime with $pq$. Then $\frac1{\log p}$, $\frac1{\log q}$ and $\frac1{\log n}$ ...
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How to represent an algebraic number in algorithm

I'm studying the problem of computing $n$th digit of given (irrational) algebraic number. Is there some canonical way to represent an algebraic number as a string I could use in computing? Basically ...
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Question about $e^{e^{e^e}}$

Is there a proof that the power tower of length $4$ of $e$ is irrational? Is it known whether or not $$e^{e^{e^e}}$$ is transcendental?
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Irrational numbers to the power of other irrational numbers: A beautiful proof question

The following theorem has a very beautiful proof. Theorem: There exist two irrational numbers $x$ and $y$ such that $x^y$ is rational. Proof: If $\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}}$ is rational then we ...
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Minkowski's question mark function iterations

The Minkowski's question mark function (we use the sign $?$ to note this function) was designed in 1904 by Minkowski. It can be defined as an increasing bijection between $\mathbb Q$ and the set of ...
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Experimental calculation and $\mathbb{Q}$

I have been reading this article and have a question about the first line of the second paragraph on the first page. It says: The basis for this suggestion is the simple fact that all experimental ...
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Can every string of numbers be found in the number pi (cfr. infinite monkey theorem)?

The infinite monkey theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of ...
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Irrationality of $\pi$ from the spigot algorithm?

The spigot algorithm for BPP formula gives hexadecimal digits of $\pi$ one at a time. Is it possible to prove directly that this algorithm cannot be computed with bounded-memory? (From R J Lipton It ...
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“Building blocks” for computable functions

In an (otherwise very enlightening) answer to another question of mine the question came up What functions are allowed as building blocks for computable functions? I was astonished that there ...
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Products of irrational numbers field of mathematics?

Recently a friend posed the question "can the product of two irrational numbers be rational?" We the trivial answers like for example $\sqrt{2}\sqrt{8} = 4$. I have become somewhat obsessed with the ...
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Irrational numbers and series

Let $$f(x) = \prod_{n = 0}^\infty \left(1 + \frac{x}{2^n}\right)$$ According to an exercise in a packet of problems in elementary number theory, this function and all its derivatives are irrational ...
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Proving irrationality i p,s and k are primes number?

Can you prove that $\frac{k^{\frac13}-p^{\frac13}}{s^{\frac13}-p^{\frac23}}$ is irrational if p, k and s are different prime numbers. I am certain it is but i dont know how to prove it.
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Third degree polynomial with integer coefficient and three irrational roots

There are some polynomial with the above characteristic, and real roots of such polynomials cannot be found using rational number theorem and irrational conjugate theorem. The example of such function ...
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Apery's constant

I read that it is unknown if $\zeta (3)$ is algebraic but it is known to be irrational. Has anyone proved anything of the form $\zeta (3)$ is not a root of a polynomial of degree $12345$ with integer ...
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Gelfond-Schneider Constant $2^{\sqrt{2}}$

Someone knows a proof (books , articles) that $2^{\sqrt{2}}$ is irrational ? Without using that $2^{\sqrt{2}}$ is transcendent. Any hints would be appreciated.
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Asymptotic behavior of $\sum_{j=1}^n \cos^p(\pi u j)$ for large $n$ and $p$?

Consider the sum $$S=\sum_{j=1}^n \cos^p(\pi u j),$$ where $n$ and $p$ are positive integers and $u$ is irrational. Let's say $p$ is even. I'm interested in the asymptotic behavior of this for $n$ ...
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What is the exact definition of a rational power?

I was taught in school that $$x^{a/b} = \sqrt[b]{x^a}$$ however, wolfram says this is not always true: $\sqrt[3]{x^2} \ne x^{2/3}$ ...
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Are limits on exponents in moduli possible, if the modulus is relatively prime?

I asked a similar question to this recently. Here, I consider an arbitrary, but fixed, modulus m, which is relatively prime to x and y. Can anybody extend the answer given in the previous question? ...
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Using Descarte’s rule of signs to determine the number of positive roots.

Using the Descarte’s rule of signs to determine the number of positive roots. \begin{equation} f(q)=[(k_f+k_d+k_p*(1-q))(\lambda_b* \gamma ...
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Integer algorithm

I have this equation: $$\ln_p y = x+\ln_k z$$ for $p, y, x, k, z \in \mathbb{N}$ Now consider that I have the values for $y$ and I can generate in anyway possible, the value for $x$. How would i ...
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Related to $\pi$ and $\tau$ constants, are they transcendental, irrational, or rational numbers?

Below are three OEIS constant sequences and values. Are they transcendental, irrational, or rational numbers? Note: $\tau = 2*\pi$ and the last two values are in radians. A233700. Decimal ...
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Combination of integers and irrationals numbers

Show that if $j$ is a positive irrational number, then for all $\varepsilon>0$ there exist integers $h$ and $k$ such that $0<h+kj<\varepsilon$. I need this result in a problem, but I don't ...
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The Conjugate Roots Theorem for Irrational Roots

The Conjugate Roots Theorem for Irrational Roots states that for a polynomial $f(x)$ with integer coefficients, if a root of the equation $f(x) = 0$ is expressed as $a+\alpha$, where $a\in\mathbb{Q}$ ...
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Continued fraction of $\gamma+1$ using recursion

Number $\gamma,$ the Euler-Mascheroni constant, is defined as the value of $$\gamma = \lim_{n\to\infty} \sum_{k=1}^n \frac{1}{k} - \ln(n).$$ We know that $$\lim_{n\to\infty} ...