Questions about real numbers not expressible as the quotient of two integers. For questions on determining whether a number is irrational, use the (rationality-testing) tag instead.

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A density question

Let $\theta \in \mathbb{R} \setminus \mathbb{Q}$. Is the set $\{ (2n+1) \theta \bmod 1: n \in \mathbb{N} \}$ dense in $[0,1]$?
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Identify irrational basis of $\mathbb{Q}$-vector space

A real sequence $\mathbf{x}=(x_k)_{k\in\mathbb{N}_0}$ is of the form $$ x_k=\alpha r_k,\quad \alpha\in\mathbb{R}\backslash\mathbb{Q},\quad r_k\in\mathbb{Q},\tag{*} $$ if and only if all of its terms ...
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How to show that the product of two irrational numbers may be irrational?

Show that the product of two irrational numbers may be irrational. You may use any facts you know about the real numbers. All we know is that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational and that $\sqrt{2}\cdot ...
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How do irrational numbers lie on the number line?

If we construct a square with side length 1, take its diagonal length : $\sqrt{2}$ However I still don't understand HOW it can lie on the number line. Imagine another irrational number $\pi = ...
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Constraining mathematics to a subset of $\mathbb{R}$

Let's imagine we're only using rational numbers for everything in mathematics. Problems arise quite soon when you try to calculate diagonals of squares or perhaps roots of something like $f(x)=x^2-2$. ...
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Does every plane curve contain a rational point?

Does every plane curve contain a rational point? I think the answer is yes, but I can not prove this. Please help. However, if it is possible to build a pathological curve - without rational points, ...
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Systematic way to represent any irrational number

I'm wondering if there's a way to symbolically (or is there a more lose constraint?) represent ANY irrational number in a systematic way. You can represent any rational number as two integers and I ...
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Is it possible to not have irrational numbers?

(Math noob question): Is there a base that can be used like binary that produces no irrational numbers or numbers with an infinite amount of one number after the decimal (don't know the name)? I feel ...
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$\Bbb{Q}$ is not complete: Carification regarding a proof

In class today we proved that $\Bbb{Q}$ is not complet, you used the fact that $$ \sum_{k=0}^N\frac{1}{k!}\underset{N\to+\infty}{\longrightarrow}e\notin\Bbb{Q}.$$ After that I was perplex to prove ...
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rational number plane vector space or not?

Two questions: 1. Is $\mathbb{Q}^2$ a vector space over the field $\mathbb{Q}$? 2. Is $\mathbb{Q}^2$ a vector space over the field $\mathbb{R}$? My answer to the first question is yes. Because the ...
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Application of the Rational Roots Theorem

Let f(x)=3x$^3$ - 40x$^2$ + 97x + 10 a. Find a rational number r such that f(r) = 0. (Hint: Use the rational roots theorem to narrow down possibilities for r.) So, I figured this part out. write r ...
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Monotone increasing sequence of rationals with an irrational limit

I am trying to use rationals in order to approximate irrationals. Is it possible to construct a monotonically increasing sequence of rationals the limit of which is an irrational? If so, how?
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There is at most one way to represent a number as $a+b\sqrt 2$ with rational $a,b$

If $a,b,c,d\in\mathbb Q$ and $a+b\sqrt 2= c + d\sqrt 2$, then prove $a=c$ and $b=d$ ? I don't have any idea to solve this , it's freaking me out.
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Irrational roots of unity?

Is it possible to take irrational roots of unity? For example, say I wanted to solve $f(x)=(x+1)^{\sqrt{2}}=1$. I found that one solution is the obvious $x=0$, and another one can be written nicely as ...
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For which values of $n$, the real part of the $n$-th root of unity is a quadratic irrational?

For which values of $n$, the real part of the $n$-th root of unity is a quadratic irrational? That is, when is it a root of a quadratic polynomial with integer coefficients? I believe that the answer ...
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Unit Quaternion to a Scalar Power

I'm trying to modify a physics engine for efficiency. Currently, as objects move around the world, their orientation (a quaternion) is updated every frame, by multiplying by the rotation (another ...
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New mathematical constant formed by continued fraction with prime numbers?

Notational convention: $$\bigoplus_{k=0}^{\infty}a_k=a_0+\cfrac{1}{a_1+\cfrac{1}{a_2+\cfrac{1}{a_3+\cfrac{1}{\ddots}}}}$$ Let $$ P:=\bigoplus_{k=1}^{\infty}p_k$$ where $p_k$ is the k-th prime ...
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Under what conditions can $a\sqrt{b} \pm c\sqrt{d}$ be written as $u+v\sqrt{w}$?

Let $a,b,c,d \ge 1$ be integers with $b$ and $d$ nonsquare and $a\sqrt{b} \ge c\sqrt{d}$. Now I have three related questions: Under what conditions can one find $u,v,w$ such that $a\sqrt{b} \pm ...
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Can any two irrational numbers NOT of the form (m+A) and (n-A) be added to produce a rational number?

$m$ and $n$ being rational numbers, A being an irrational number. I was wondering if two irrational numbers when added always yield an irrational number. All the counter-examples I could find were of ...
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How to prove that a number is irrational

We write all postive whole integers after the comma, how do we prove that this is an irrational number? ($0.1234567891011121314...$)
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Are there any general results about the irrationality of $a^{\frac{p}{q}}$?

Are there any general results about the irrationality of $a^{\frac{p}{q}}$ for $a\in\mathbb{Z}^+$, $p,q\in\mathbb{Z}$, $q\neq 0$ and $a\neq 1$?
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Periodicity with irrational numbers

Recently, I invented the following theorem and found a proof, it seems strange since it is very counter-intuitive to me. The proof is long and non-conceptual. Is there a place or a branch of math ...
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How to know equation solution irrational

I would appreciate if somebody could help me with the following problem Q: Is the solution of the equation $$2\cos^2\pi x+\cos \pi x-2=0 $$ irrational ?
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Periodicity with irrational numbers

Recently, I composed the following math problem and found a solution, it seems strange since it is very counter-intuitive to me. Is there a place or a branch of math where I can read about it? Or at ...
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Calculate digits of $\pi$ without needing to reuse them

I am looking for some algorithms that can calculate the digits of $\pi$ without needing to reuse previous digits. I would like to find the most simple and fast algorithms possible. Thanks!
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Represent non-integer values on the factorial base

I want to compute the representation of the following values using the factorial number system: $\pi$ $e$ $\phi$ I know how to do it for integer values, but is it feasible for non-integer values? ...
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Are there any number systems better suited to nature?

For example, number such as $\pi$ and $e$ cannot be represented as rational numbers in our number study and extend in decimal places to infinity. QUESTION: Is there a possibility that some other ...
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Is this irrationality proof correct?

Consider a non-square integer $n$. If its square root was rational, then we would have $$\sqrt n=\frac{a}{b}$$ for some $a,b\in\mathbb{Z}$ and so $a^2=nb^2$. But this is impossible, because $n$ is ...
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Yet another product of irrational numbers

Let $~\alpha~$ and $~\beta~$ be irrational numbers such that $$~\alpha \notin \{\beta, -\beta\}$$ and $$~\alpha \notin \left\{\frac{1}{\beta}, -\frac{1}{\beta}\right\}$$ I suppose that in this case ...
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square root of 2 irrational - alternative proof

I have found the following alternative proof online. It looks amazingly elegant but I wonder if it is correct. I mean: should it not state that $(\sqrt{2}-1)\cdot k \in \mathbb{N}$ to be able to ...
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What type of numbers are roots of $x^{2} = -1$ themselves?

Are the roots $i, -i$ themselves irrational numbers or complex numbers or left auxiliary so that undefined?
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Prove $\alpha \in\mathbb R$ is irrational, when $\cos(\alpha \pi) = \frac{1}{3}$

I am trying to prove: If $\cos(\pi\alpha) = \frac{1}{3}$ then $\alpha \in \mathbb{R} \setminus \mathbb{Q}$ So far, I've tried making it into an exponential, since exponentials are easier to ...
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How do I check if intervals can be nested?

Hi I'm in grade 10 and I'm doing nested intervals. Under my current circumstances I am unable to have a teacher, so I'm self teaching with the help of textbooks. I understand very, very basic ...
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Prove that if $x$ and $y$ are irrational numbers, there exists an irrational number $z$ such that $y < z < x$

My teacher proposed this question a few days ago along with the similar case for rational numbers. I've already figured out the proof for rational numbers (just prove that their arithmetic mean is ...
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Cantor diagonal argument; related number

I was reading another question on mse about cantors proof and I'm curious about a number that could be defined from it. Well there could be a whole heap of them, but one for now. Define $A=\Bbb{Q} ...
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Correctness of the proof that the set $\{x \in \mathbb{Q} : x>0 \text{ and } x^2>2\}$ does not have a smallest element

Let $F=\{x \in \mathbb{Q} : x>0 \text{ and } x^2>2\}$. I am asked to show that $F$ does not have a smallest element. The hint is to simply prove the claim: 'If $p$ is a rational number in ...
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Process to show that $\sqrt 2+\sqrt[3] 3$ is irrational

How can I prove that the sum $\sqrt 2+\sqrt[3] 3$ is an irrational number ??
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Can one prove existence of incommensurables without the Pythagorean theorem?

Euclid's proof that the side and the diagonal of a square have no common measure, probably going back to Pythagoreans, reduces it to proving the irrationality of $\sqrt{2}$. This reduction uses the ...
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Example of a proof using the axiom of commensurability

I'm teaching our intro to proofs course (well, one of them) and one of the classic illustrations of an overturned "axiom" is the Greek axiom of commensurability, which stated in geometric terms the ...
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If $q^n$ is irrational for all $n>1$, then $q$ is irrational.

Theorem. Let $q \in \mathbb{R}$ an arbitrary given number. If $q^n$ is irrational for all $n>1$ integer, then $q$ is irrational. My Questions. What is a the name of this statement and what is the ...
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How is circle closed?

I have this thought that circle in 'real' is not a closed figure. We all know that 'pi' is irrational.And integers are nodes in a 'monstrous' line of real numbers. Irrational numbers are ...
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Is $\ln\sqrt{2}$ irrational?

I know that the natural log of any positive algebraic number is transcendental, as a consequence of the Lindemann-Weierstrass theorem, but what about the natural log of the square root of two (which ...
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Rational values of $\sin(\log(x))$

Apart from the trivial solution $\sin(\log(1))=0$, is $$\sin(\log(x))$$ ever rational if $x$ is rational?
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How do you multiply infinite quantities?

Out of curiosity I was watching this video from njwildberger on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DNlEq0ZrTo Where he says that you can't define associativity between irrational numbers ...
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Existence of a sequence of integers $\lbrace a_k\rbrace_{k\geq 1}$ so that the first $k$ digits of $a_k\alpha$ are $0$ where $\alpha$ is irrational.

Let $\alpha$ be an irrational number. Is there a sequence $\lbrace a_k\rbrace_{k\geq 1}$ of integers so that the first $k$ digits of the fractional part of $a_k·\alpha$ are $0$? (in base $2$, for ...
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For an irrational number $a$ the fractional part of $na$ for $n\in\mathbb N$ is dense in $[0,1]$ [duplicate]

How to prove that the $\{$ fractional part of $n\alpha\mid n \in \mathbb{N}$ $\}$ is dense in $[0,1]$ for an irrational number $\alpha$. NOTICE that $n$ is in $\mathbb{N}$ Also notice that this is ...
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$1$ is not congruent because of Fermat's Last Theorem?

I would like someone to explain something I did not understand. I was reading a page called "nuking the mosquito" where they give very complex proofs for very simple results. The proof I want to talk ...
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Irrational number “test”?

Suppose we have a finite quantity $a$, which we would like to prove to be irrational, supposing that it is indeed irrational. Then, would it be enough to show that ...
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Are numbers like $\left ( -2 \right )^{\sqrt{2}}$ real or complex?

I know that numbers with rational power can be converted to radicals and based on the degree of the radical we can say that whether they are real or complex. But what about numbers like $\left ( -2 ...
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Lambert's Original Proof that $\pi$ is irrational.

I am trying to find Lambert's original proof that $\pi$ is irrational. Wikipedia has a little description but it is quite lacking. Can someone direct me to Lambert's original proof or post his proof ...