Questions about real numbers not expressible as the quotient of two integers. For questions on determining whether a number is irrational, use the (rationality-testing) tag instead.

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Enough Dedekind cuts to define all irrationals?

Assuming that there are uncountably infinitely many irrationals between any two consecutive rationals, how can the Dedekind cuts (defined on the countably infinite rationals) define all the ...
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Difference between density and measure

In terms of definition, I know the difference between the two. However, the set of rationals $\mathbb{Q}$ has measure zero but is dense in $\mathbb{R}$. Whenever I envision this, I see a set of ...
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Does $\lfloor(4+\sqrt{11})^{n}\rfloor \pmod {100}$ repeat every $20$ cycles of $n$?

I recently came across a post on SO, asking to calculate the least two decimal digits of the integer part of $(4+\sqrt{11})^{n}$, for any integer $n \geq 2$ (see here). The author presented a Java ...
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How to understand Apostol's proof of the irrationality of $\sqrt{n}$ if $n$ is not a perfect square?

Recently I am reading the textbook of Apostol, Mathematical Analysis, Second Edition. On page 7, there is a theorem 1.10: If $n$ is a positive integer with is not a perfect square, then $\sqrt{n}$ is ...
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Prove that there is no rational number solution for an equation.

Prove that there is no rational number solution to the equation $x^2-3x+1=0$. (Note, we do not assume that we know all the solutions of $x^2-3x+1=0$ are given by quadratic formula)
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Sum of two periodic functions is periodic?

I have following paragraph taken from the Stanford's study material. Question: Is the sum of two periodic functions periodic? Answer: I guess the answer is no if you are Mathematician, yes ...
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What Will Happen Without Decimal Expansion?

After a discussion on the complexity of decimal expansion (such as $0.\bar{9}=1$), some of my students (middle school) decided to throw away the decimal expansion of some numbers! Namely, the numbers ...
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A good site documenting approximations of irrationals

I'm thinking of Sloane here but I believe that only takes sequences/series into account. Basically I've derived an interesting, appealing formula for e and want to know if it's already been ...
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Irrationality of $\sum_{p\in\mathbb{P}} \frac{1}{2^{p}}$

Let $\mathbb{P}$ be the set of prime numbers, and consider $m=\displaystyle\sum_{p\in\mathbb{P}} \frac{1}{2^{p}}$. Is $m$ irrational? In the following paper, the author recalls several sufficient ...
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How do you prove $\sqrt{n}$ is an integer or it is irrational? [duplicate]

I have tried this problem five times but I keep getting stuck. I keep following the proof for $\sqrt{2}$. I know that I have to prove that the set is nonempty. Which I do by induction. $2^1 > 1$ ...
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Why are $e$ and $\pi$ so common as results of seemingly unrelated fields?

I'm sure this gets asked all the time but I swear I googled with no useful result. What I'm looking for is a reasonably intuitive answer. Those two constants have some pretty interesting properties. ...
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representation of rational field

I want to know how is represented general form of rational field, for example definition of ${\mathbb Q}(\sqrt{2})$ is represented as $p+q \sqrt{2}$, where $p$ and $q$ are rational numbers, for ...
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Prove that 2.101001000100001… is an irrational number.

My try: This number is non-terminating and non-repeating, so this is an irrational number. But how do I prove it more formally in a more mathematically rigorous way?
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Proof of irrationality of $\dfrac{\sqrt{8}}{\sqrt{7}}$

We have to prove that $\dfrac{\sqrt{8}}{\sqrt{7}}$ is irrational(try not to use the Rational Root Theorem) At first,we prove that the expression is not an integer. ...
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What is the name of $0.\overline{0}1$

Short question: What is the name of the number closest but not equal to zero? Long question: Some programmers were discussing about the smallest number close to zero, which is ...
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Does the number $2.3\,5\,7\,11\,13\ldots$ exist and, if so, is it rational or irrational &/or transcendental? [duplicate]

Does there exist a number which contains in its digits all of the prime numbers listed in order: $$2.3\,5\,7\,11\,13\ldots\ldots$$ if so, will it be rational or irrational &/or transcendental?
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Understanding non-solvable algebraic numbers

Background We know from Galois theory that the zeros of a polynomial with rational coefficients whose Galois group is solvable can be expressed in a formula that involves rational powers of the ...
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Help me to Prove that log2 3 is irrational. [closed]

seemingly simple homework assignment, help? Was never the best with logarithms, how would I go about proving? Sorry the question read IRrational!
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$f$ differentiable, $f(x)$ rational if $x$ rational; $f(x)$ irrational if $x$ irrational. Is $f$ a linear function?

Let $f$ be an everywhere differentiable function whose domain consists of all real numbers. Assume that $f(x)$ is rational for rational $x$ and irrational for irrational $x$. Can we conclude that $f$ ...
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How is this a proof of the irrationality of $\sqrt2$

Proof. Suppose for the sake of contradiction that $\sqrt2$ is rational, and choose the least integer, $q \gt 0$, such that $(\sqrt2 − 1)q$ is a non negative integer. Let $q':=(\sqrt2 − 1)q$. Clearly ...
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Will negative bases with irrational exponents get a real or imaginary number?

Here are a few examples: $$(-1)^{\sqrt{2}},(-2)^{\pi},(-3)^{e}$$ From what I've learned, negative bases must have denominators of the exponent odd. Normally if we do $(-2)^{0.258}$ it would be the ...
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A question about limit and sequence

Let $\{p_n\},\{q_n\}$ be sequences of positive integers such that $$ \lim_{n \to \infty}\frac{p_n}{q_n}=\sqrt{2}. $$ Show that $$\lim_{n\to\infty}\dfrac{1}{q_n}=0.$$ I have no clue in proving this. ...
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Teaching irrational numbers?

I'm interested in teaching the irrational numbers to high-school students, and I need your ideas on how to do this in an 'optimal' and innovative way. And my question is: What should the teacher know ...
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Predicting digits in $\pi$

Is it possible to predict next digit in $\pi$ using $N$ previous digits, so on and so forth? Or is this impossible because it's irrational? Basic assumption is that the person doesn't know a ...
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$x^2-p=0$, with $p$ prime, have irrational roots.

Unaware that $\sqrt{p}$ is irrational, prove that as $x^2-p=0$ have irrational root for $p$ prime? How would you use the criterion of Eisenstein?
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Polynomial in $\mathbb{Q}[x]$ with root $\sqrt[3]{2}+\sqrt[3]{3}$

What is a polynomial $P(x)\in \mathbb{Q}[x]$ with root $\sqrt[3]{2}+\sqrt[3]{3}$? I write $x=\sqrt[3]{2}+\sqrt[3]{3}$, so $(x-\sqrt[3]{2})^3=3$, but the expansion of the left side contains two cube ...
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Proof e is irrational — Choice of Sign of m/n = e and Uncanny Step

Assume $e$ is rational. Then, there exist coprime integers $m$ and $n$, and we can choose $n$ to be positive, such that: $\displaystyle \frac m n = e = \sum_{i \mathop = 0}^\infty \frac 1 {i!}$ from ...
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Is there an elementary proof that $\sum_{n=1}^\infty {1\over n^s\{n\pi\}}<\infty$ for some $s>0$?

Edit: David Speyer's answer made me realize a couple of things and I would like to clarify. Sorry if the length of this is getting out of hand. First, it is now clear that no estimate can be obtained ...
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Direct proof: $\sqrt{13}$ is irrational

Show that $\sqrt{13}$ is an irrational number. How to direct proof that number is irrational number. So what is the first step.....
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Proof that there are infinitely many irrational numbers!

I want to prove that there are infinitely many irrational numbers! How can I do that? I don't know where or how to start so any hint is appreciated. Thanks! :)
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Irrational number?

Is the solution of the equation $$x + \arctan(x) = \pi$$ irrational ? The equation of $x + \arctan(x) = 1$ must be transcendental because for any nonzero algebraic $x$, $arctan(x)$ is ...
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Prove that this number is irrational

The number $a=0.12457...$ is defined as follows: The digit on the $n$-th place after the dot is the first digit left to the dot of the number $n\sqrt2$. For example, for $n=1$ we have ...
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Number made from ending digits of primes

Consider the number 0.23571379391713739171393971379371799173739113791379391173917133713717793 ... The number is formed by the ending digits of the prime numbers. Is it known whether this number is ...
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$\sqrt{2}\notin\mathbb{Q}$ but …

Ok, it's easy to prove that prime roots are irrational (i.e. $ \sqrt{p} \not\in \mathbb{Q}, \text{ if } p \in \mathbb{P} $) Consider $ \sqrt{2} $. We can quickly prove that $ \sqrt{2} \not\in ...
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Integer parts of multiples of irrationals

Let $\alpha>0$ and define $S(\alpha)=\{\lfloor n \alpha \rfloor: n\in\Bbb Z^+ \}$. (Here $\lfloor x\rfloor$ is the integer part of $x$ and $\mathbb Z^+$ the set of positive integers.) Question. Is ...
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Do irrational numbers really exist? [closed]

Isn't it possible that an irrational number is in reality the quotient of two infinitely long integers that even if there were repeating sections in it, it would take infinite digits to find the first ...
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Draw an irrational number on the number line (without pythagoras sentence)

Let's say im a guy for ancient greece and I only have a string and a pencil. And I want to draw a line, the width of the line is the square root of 6. And I only know how to draw a line in the width ...
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How to represent the square root of 90 as a fraction?

How to represent the square root of 90 as a fraction? I can usually do this with a calculator but it's not wanting to play nice. I need it to find the distance between two points but, ...
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Sum of all real number for any interval.

We know that sum of natural numbers over any interval always exists. For example sum from 0 to 10 of all natural numbers is $$S=\sum_{n=0}^{10}{n}=\frac{0+10}{2}\times{10}=55$$ But what about real ...
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Does $E^2 \; ( E \approx 1.2640847\ldots)$ equal $D \approx 1.5979102\ldots$?

Does $E^2=D$? Where $E$ is a constant used in the closed form of the Sylvester Sequence (see: Closed form formula and asymptotics) and $D$ is a constant for the closed formula of the sequence A007018 ...
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If $\beta=0.{a_1}^{k}{a_2}^{k}{a_3}^{k}\cdots\in\mathbb Q$, then $\alpha=0.a_1a_2a_3\cdots\in\mathbb Q$?

Question : For every even $k\ge 4$, is the following $(\star)$ true? $$\begin{align}\text{If $\beta=0.{a_1}^{k}{a_2}^{k}{a_3}^{k}\cdots\in\mathbb Q$, then $\alpha=0.a_1a_2a_3\cdots\in\mathbb ...
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probability that a number defined by a random process is irrational

What if we write $0$. and then throw a coin and depending on the result continue the number with 1 or $0$ and continue this process indefinitely. It is clear that the result of this procedure is a ...
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recipe for infinitely many irrational numbers - or is it?

What if we write 0. and then throw a coin and depending on the result continue the number with 1 or 0 and continue this process indefinitely. It seems like a recipe for producing irrational numbers. ...
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Determine if the number $ \sqrt{8+2\sqrt{10+2\sqrt{5}}} - \sqrt{8-2\sqrt{10+2\sqrt{5}}} $ is rational

$ \sqrt{8+2\sqrt{10+2\sqrt{5}}} - \sqrt{8-2\sqrt{10+2\sqrt{5}}} $ I have tried to raising it to the square, but I can't obtain the result. $ \sqrt{8+2\sqrt{10+2\sqrt{5}}} - ...
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$\arctan$ of a square root as a rational multiple of $\pi$

I know that if $x$ is a rational multiple of $\pi$, then $\tan(x)$ is algebraic. Is there a fairly simple way to express $x$ as $\pi\frac{m}{n}$, if $\tan(x)$ is given as a square root of a rational? ...
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Proving irrationality i p,s and k are primes number?

Can you prove that $\frac{k^{\frac13}-p^{\frac13}}{s^{\frac13}-p^{\frac23}}$ is irrational if p, k and s are different prime numbers. I am certain it is but i dont know how to prove it.
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Existence of five real numbers satisfying a given condition.

Let $a_1,\dots,a_5$ be five distinct non-zero real numbers. Suppose that for $i\neq j$ either $a_i+a_j$ or $a_ia_j$ or both are rational numbers, does it implies that $a_i^2$ are rational numbers for ...
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Does $\pi \ | \ 2 \pi$

Does $\pi$ divide $2 \pi?$ Clearly $\frac{2 \pi}{\pi}=2$ and 2 is an integer, so it would seem to make sense to say that $\pi \ | \ 2 \pi$. Does it make sense to write, for example, $$\pi \ | \ x ...
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Logic: Prove Log(base 9) 15 is irrational

Im having trouble with the following proof... Ill post what I have completed so far.. Prove $\log_915$ is irrational. Ill attempt by contradiction assuming $\log_915$ is rational. So, $\log_915 = ...
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The shape of a graph of a function with $n$th-roots?

Not just these type of functions: $$\sqrt[3]{x}=x^{1/3} \;\;\;\text{and} \;\;\; \sqrt[8]{x}=x^{1/8}$$ But also more complicated expressions, like expressions that have $n$th roots inside of ...