Numbers not expressible as a ratio of two integers. Examples: $\sqrt{2},\phi,e,\pi,\zeta(3)$. Some of them are algebraic ($\sqrt{2},\phi$) and some transcendental ($e,\pi$).

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property of real number system

"Between every two rational numbers there exist infinite irrational numbers and between every two irrational numbers there exist infinite rational numbers. Is this statement correct? If it is, then ...
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how to find out any digit of any irrational number?

We know that irrational number has not periodic digits of finite number as rational number. All this means that we can find out which digit exist in any position of rational number. But what about ...
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What irrational number has the simplest calculation in terms of computation?

I came across https://github.com/philipl/pifs which is a fancy way of storing data. And a thought struck my mind, is it so that Pi is the simplest irrational number to calculate? So the Question is. ...
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how do we know the BBP formula for $\pi$ is valid?

I recently read about the Bailey–Borwein–Plouffe formula for calculating the $n^{\rm th}$ digit of $\pi$. I'm curious to how can we be sure that the formula is always accurate or correct?! Even if we ...
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Proof of $\pi$ not being a quadratic irrational number.

Does someone know a proof (books , articles) that $\pi$ is not a quadratic irrational? The proof should not use that $\pi$ is transcendental. Any hints would be appreciated.
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Curious function problem (EDIT: Not so curious, but didn`t see it at the time of writing)

This one is directly from my head and although it could be something trivial I do not see the way to attack it but the problem looks interesting and I want to share it with you, here it is: Let us ...
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Gelfond-Schneider Constant $2^{\sqrt{2}}$

Someone knows a proof (books , articles) that $2^{\sqrt{2}}$ is irrational ? Without using that $2^{\sqrt{2}}$ is transcendent. Any hints would be appreciated.
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Find the limiting value of the sequence

A sequence is given by the recurrence relation: $$u_n = 1 + {1\over u_{n-1} +1}, u_1 = 1, n{=\ge}1$$ Work out the 2nd, 3rd and 4th term of the sequence and find the limiting value of the sequence. ...
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prove that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational using only geometry

Prove that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational using only geometric concepts and proofs. The proof should look like a proof in Euclid's elements or standard high school geometry. No algebra is allowed. (I know ...
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Continued fraction of $\gamma+1$ using recursion

Number $\gamma,$ the Euler-Mascheroni constant, is defined as the value of $$\gamma = \lim_{n\to\infty} \sum_{k=1}^n \frac{1}{k} - \ln(n).$$ We know that $$\lim_{n\to\infty} ...
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Irrationality proof by rational approximations

Assume we have a sequence of rational numbers $\left(\frac{p_n}{q_n}\right),$ where $\gcd(p_n,q_n)=1, \ \forall n \in \mathbb N$. We know that $$\lim_{n\to\infty} \left(\frac{p_n}{q_n}\right)= x$$ ...
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A further question on the irrationality of $x^2+y^2=3$

(Apologies for a further question on the same problem) On page 79 of Julian Harvil's book "The Irrationals" he sets out to prove (by contradiction) that all the points on the circle described by ...
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Irrationality of the points on $x^2 + y^2 = 3$

On page 79 of his book "The Irrationals", Julian Harvil sets out to prove that all the points on the Cartesian plane of the circle described by $x^2 +y^2 =3$ are irrational... (paraphrased below) ...
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$\pi$ does not lie in any quadratic extension of $\mathbb{Q}$

Knowing that $\pi^2$ is irrational: How can we prove that $\pi$ does not lie in any quadratic extension of $\mathbb{Q}$ ? Without using that $\pi$ is transcendent. Any hints would be appreciated.
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Can $\sqrt{n} + \sqrt{m}$ be rational if neither $n,m$ are perfect squares?

Can the expression $\sqrt{n} + \sqrt{m}$ be rational if neither $n,m \in \mathbb{N}$ are perfect squares? I doesn't seem likely, the only way that could happen is if for example $\sqrt{m} = ...
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Prove $a + b\sqrt{2}$ is irrational

Suppose that a and b are non-zero rational numbers. How can I show that $a+b√2$ is not a rational number. You may assume that $√2$ is not a rational number. I thought that finding contradictions in ...
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Prove that $\sqrt 2 + \sqrt 3$ is irrational

I have proved in earlier exercises of this book that $\sqrt 2$ and $\sqrt 3$ are irrational. Then, the sum of two irrational numbers is an irrational number. Thus, $\sqrt 2 + \sqrt 3$ is irrational. ...
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If $q>1$ is not an integer, can $q^n$ be made arbitrarily close to integers?

This question arose when I heard about Mill's constant: the number $A$ such that $\lfloor A^{3^n} \rfloor$ is prime for all $n$. It made me wonder whether $A^{3^n}$ could be made arbitrarily close to ...
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Prove that $\sqrt 5$ is irrational

I have to prove that $\sqrt 5$ is irrational. Proceeding as in the proof of $\sqrt 2$, let us assume that $\sqrt 5$ is rational. This means for some distinct integers $p$ and $q$ having no common ...
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Transcendental proofs vs. Irrational proofs

Why are proofs of the transcendence of certain numbers usually harder than irrationality proofs of those same numbers (for example, Lindemann's proof of the transcendence of pi vs. Niven's proof of ...
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Positive integer multiples of an irrational mod 1 are dense [duplicate]

I'm not sure how to solve this one. Thank you! $2.$ For any $\alpha\in \mathbb R$ we define $$\lfloor \alpha \rfloor = \max_{n\in\mathbb Z}\{\,n\mid n\leq \alpha\,\}$$ and $$\alpha\bmod 1 = \alpha ...
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Rational number to the power of irrational number = irrational number. True?

I suggested the following problem to my friend: prove that there exist irrational numbers $a$ and $b$ such that $a^b$ is rational. The problem seems to have been discussed in this question. Now, his ...
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What rational numbers have rational square roots?

All rational numbers have the fraction form $$\frac a b,$$ where a and b are integers($b\neq0$). My question is: for what $a$ and $b$ does the fraction have rational square root? The simple answer ...
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How do you show this isomorphism?

How do you show that $\mathbb{R} \backslash \mathbb{Q} \cong \mathbb{N}^{\mathbb{N}}$? What is a good starting point in showing this?
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irrationality of $\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}}$.

The fact that there exists irrational number $a,b$ such that $a^b$ is rational is proved by the law of excluded middle, but I read somewhere that irrationality of $\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}}$ is proved ...
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Are “perfect” circles mathematically impossible (and do irrational numbers exist)? [closed]

It occurred to me that while $\pi$ is an irrational number, it is nevertheless the ratio between the circumference and diameter of all circles. This seems like a contradiction. Thinking about it ...
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Any irrational number can be raised to a power so that the result is an integer number [duplicate]

Does it hold in general, that for every irrational number there exists a power to which when raised, the result will be an integer? Does there exist a counterexample, of which it can be showed that no ...
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Are irrational numbers completely random?

As far as I know the decimal numbers in any irrational appear randomly showing no pattern. Hence it may not be possible to predict the $n^{th}$ decimal point without any calculations. So I was ...
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What's $P$ and what's $Q$ in this classic proof of the irrationality of $\sqrt 2$?

In this proof extracted from the Wikipedia A classic proof by contradiction from mathematics is the proof that the square root of 2 is irrational. If it were rational, it could be expressed as ...
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How to solve the following problems with exponent?

If $9^{x+2}= 240+9^x$ then x= ? $10^x = 64$ what is the value of $10^{(x/2)+1} = ?$ $x/x^{1.5} = 8*x^{-1}$ and x > 0 , then x = ? $x^{-2} = 64$, then $x^{1/3} + x^0$ = ? $4^x - 4^{x-1} = 24 $ then ...
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Numbers that cannot be expressed as fractions

What are Numbers that cannot be expressed as Fractions called?
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Irrational sum to integers?

Is it possible for $(a-b)k + bf$ to be an integer if $k,f$ are irrational numbers and $a,b$ are integers? What about $(a-b)k - bf$?
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Can every string of numbers be found in the number pi (cfr. infinite monkey theorem)?

The infinite monkey theorem states that a monkey hitting keys at random on a typewriter keyboard for an infinite amount of time will almost surely type a given text, such as the complete works of ...
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Is $e^{i+\pi}$ irrational or not?

Since we know that the value of $e$, $i$, and $\pi$ are irrational reals, how about $$e^{i+\pi}\;?$$ Is it still irrational (that is, not a Gaussian rational)? The problem make me curious until now.
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Can $x^{x^{x^x}}$ be a rational number?

If $x$ is a positive rational number, but not an integer, then can $x^{x^{x^x}}$ be a rational number ? We can prove that if $x$ is a positive rational number but not an integer, then $x^x$ can ...
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What is the value of $\sum\limits_{i=1}^\infty\frac{1}{p_{p_i}}$ where $p_{i}$ is the $i$th prime?

What is the value of $\sum\limits_{i=1}^\infty\dfrac{1}{p_{p_i}}$ where $p_n$ is the nth prime (and so $p_{p_n}$ is the $k$th prime, where $k$ is the $n$th prime) ? Thus ...
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Numbers with no finite representation on paper

It occurred to me that there must be a lot of numbers without any form of finite representation on paper. Is there a name for these numbers? For example... Integers and rationals have a very simple ...
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More three-term arithmetic progression questions

This question was inspired by a recent question about whether $\frac1{2}$, $\frac1{3}$ and $\frac1{15}$ can be (possibly non-consecutive) terms in an arithmetic progression. My question(s): Which of ...
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Geometric proof that if n is a non-perfect square, then √n is irrational.

I know there is a geometric proof of the irrationality of √2. I thought maybe this one could be generalized for √n when n is a non-perfect square, but I could not find something like that anywhere. ...
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Could you prove convergence?

Two questions: Prove $a_n$ is bounded by 2 if $a_1=0, a_2=\sqrt2,\ldots,a_{n+1}=\sqrt{2+a_n}$ Prove (I've already proven $s_n$ is monotonically increasing and bounded above by 3) $\lim_{n \to ...
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Is there a simple proof that $e^2$ is irrational using a positional numeral system?

My favorite proof that $e$ is irrational goes something like this. Observe that we can write any real number $r$ as $$ a \,+\, \frac{b_2}{2} \,+\, \frac{b_3}{3!} \,+\, \frac{b_4}{4!} \,+\, ...
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Check my answer: $\Bbb Q$ is neither open nor closed

I have a so easy question. I have done it's answer by myself. I want you to only check my answer please. Does there exist any mistake or the missing? The set of irrational numbers - $\Bbb Q$ is ...
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Is there a rational number between any two irrationals?

Suppose $i_1$ and $i_2$ are distinct irrational numbers with $i_1 < i_2$. Is it necessarily the case that there is a rational number $r$ in the interval $[i_1, i_2]$? How would you construct such ...
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Does $x^2>x^3+1 \implies x < -{1\over P}$?

How could one prove that: $$x^2>x^3+1 \implies x < -{1\over P}$$ where $P$ denotes the plastic constant, the unique real root of $x^3-x-1=0$?
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What is $ e $? How does $ e $ relate to its limit as $n \to \infty$? [closed]

Why does $\left(\frac{\infty + 1}{\infty}\right)^{\infty} = e$? Does this account for the disparity between the countable and uncountable $\infty$? Why?
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Find two rationals, one greater and one smaller than a given irrational number.

Given an irrational number 0 < i < 1. Find two rational numbers a and b such that 0 < a < i < b < 1.
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Is there a (real) number which gives a rational number both when multiplied by $\pi$ and when multiplied by $e$?

Besides $0$ of course. What about addition and exponentiation? I would think there's no such number, but I'm not sure if I could prove it.
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Non-integer bases and irrationality

I read somewhere: When it comes to properties like prime, irrational, rational, divisible by 2, etc., nothing changes when you change base. But I'm not sure about the rational/irrational one. ...
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Are all integer fractions rational?

Any repeating decimal can be written as a fraction $\frac{a}{b}$ where $a$ and $b$ are integers. But is the reverse true. Will any fraction $\frac{a}{b}$ where $a$ and $b$ are integers produce a ...