Questions about real numbers not expressible as the quotient of two integers. For questions on determining whether a number is irrational, use the (rationality-testing) tag instead.

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Polynomial with irrational coefficients

Let $2^{q/4}=2^{(4w+1)/4}=2^{1/4} 2^w=X+f$ where q is a prime $X,w\in{N}$ and $0<f<1$. Since $2^{1/4}$ is irrational $f$ is irrational. Is there any way to prove that $f^4+4 f^3 X+6 f^2 ...
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express an irrational as the sum of a rational and irrational number

Simple question, apologies. This is from some sample high school math questions, target is age 16 pupils. I don't think any great sophistication is expected. P + Q = $\sqrt {5}$ P is a rational ...
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If $x - \lvert x \rvert + \frac{1}{x} - \lvert \frac{1}{x} \rvert = 1$ then $x$ is irrational [duplicate]

For every real number $x$, if $x - \lvert x \rvert + \frac{1}{x} - \lvert \frac{1}{x} \rvert = 1$ then $x$ is irrational If $x$ equals $\sqrt{2}$ I get an inequality... So is this claim false?
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Infinite sequence of digits without consecutive repeating subsequenes

Problem description: Suppose we use a set of digits $\{0,1,2\}$ to form a sequence, for example \begin{equation} 120210120102012102010210120212010\cdots \end{equation} The length can be finite or ...
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Prove that the proof for $\sqrt{2}$ being irrational doesn't work for $\sqrt{4}$

So I am supposed to show that the standard way of proving that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational doesn't hold for $\sqrt{4}$. So making the assumption that $p$ and $q$ are natural numbers and any common ...
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Proving the irrationality of $\sqrt{5} = x \sqrt{7} + y$

I need to prove that there are no rational numbers $x, y$ that $$\sqrt{5} = x \sqrt{7} + y$$ We know that square root of prime is irrational so $y = 5 - 7x$ so the only number for it to be rational ...
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prove or disprove if a number is irrational

Prove or disprove : I'm pretty sure this isn't true yet i can't find a counter example. Thanks in advance !
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Proving that $x$ is irrational if $x-\lfloor x \rfloor + \frac1x - \left\lfloor \frac1x \right\rfloor = 1$

Prove : $$ \text{If } \; x-\lfloor x \rfloor + \frac{1}{x} - \left\lfloor \frac{1}{x} \right\rfloor = 1 \text{, then } x \text{ is irrational.}$$ I think the way to go here is to falsely assume that ...
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If you apply the Distributive Property to a Rational and an Irrational number, which will your solution be?

Say that "A" and "B" are Rational, and C is irrational, would the solution to "A(B+C)" be Rational or Irrational? An example for clarification would be wonderful.
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Where, if ever, does the decimal representation of $\pi$ repeat its initial segment?

I was wondering at which decimal place $\pi$ first repeats itself exactly once. So if $\pi$ went $3.143141592...$, it would be the thousandth place, where the second $3$ is. To clarify, this ...
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Digits of irrational exponentiation

Let us have positive irrational numbers $a$ and $b$ represented by functions $f_a,f_b\colon\mathbb{N}\to\mathbb{N}$ respectively such that $f_a(0)=\left \lfloor{a}\right \rfloor$ and $f_a(i)$, ...
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How to prove $e^{1/e}$ is irrational?

How do we prove $e^{\frac{1}{e}}$ is irrational ? Also how do we show it is transcendental ? The number $\eta = \exp(\exp(-1))$ occurs naturally in the context of tetration and power towers. Let ...
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Show that $a = b = c = 0$ for $a\sqrt{2} + b = c\sqrt{3}$ is

This is the following question: Suppose that $a, b, c$ are integers such that $a\sqrt{2} + b = c\sqrt{3}$ (i) By squaring both sides of the equation, show that $a = b = c = 0$ The answer says that ...
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subtraction of two irrational numbers to get a rational [duplicate]

Say you have a number like $\pi$ or e. Is it possible to subtract another number from it and end up with a rational number? I mean I guess you could write an equation like $\pi-x=3$ But could there ...
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Prove that $x$ is rational iff $a=b=0$

So the question goes let $x = a\sqrt3 + b\sqrt 5$ where $a,b$ rational. Prove that $x$ is rational iff $a=b=0$. I think I can prove this but I'm not sure if my proof is correct or rigorous. Well ...
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Is there any basis transformation under which all irrational numbers are rationals and vice-versa?

For example, if you change the length of your "unit scale" or basis for numbers to $\sqrt{2}$, then you may represent all fractional multiples of $\sqrt{2}$ as "rational numbers" in the new basis ...
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Rhetoric algebra for three common irrational ratios: $\frac{1}{\sqrt2}$, $\frac{1}{\sqrt3}$, $\frac{1}{\sqrt5}$

I know there are many ways to express these three irrational numbers as ratios: $\frac{1}{\sqrt2}$, $\frac{1}{\sqrt3}$, $\frac{1}{\sqrt5}$. I have three proposals below from my view of point. Can you ...
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Proving $\frac{\arccos\frac15}\pi\not\in\Bbb Q$

How would one prove $$\frac{\arccos\frac15}\pi\not\in\Bbb Q$$ Fiddling around with numbers hasn't led me anywhere: Suppose $\frac{\arccos\frac15}\pi\in\Bbb Q$, suppose it is equal to $\frac ab$. Then ...
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Geometrical progression from 1 to $\sqrt5$ to 3 by arithmetics

How do you formulate arithmetically this pretty simple Euclid geometric progression from one to three via square root of 5? GK = 1, AE = $\sqrt5$, GH = 3 but what is the equation behind the last ...
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To prove that element $\frac{3}{n}+i\frac{4}{5}$ has an infinite order in $\mathbb{C}$ for any $n\in\mathbb{Z}\backslash \{0\}$

The problem is to prove that element $z=\frac{3}{n}+i\frac{4}{5}$ has an infinite order in the group $(\mathbb{C},\, \cdot\, )$ for any non-zero integer $n$. Let's consider the case $|n|\neq 5$. ...
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What is the closest fraction (that isn't something like 31415…/1000…) that gets you pretty close to pi?

I'm just wondering what is the closest fraction (question for math nerds and geniuses) that isn't like pi/length-of-pi that gets you relatively close (like accurate to the 20th place) to pi? For ...
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Prove $\sqrt{2}+\sqrt[3]{5}$ is irrational [duplicate]

Prove: $\sqrt{2}+\sqrt[3]{5}$ is irrational I have tried to look at $1+\sqrt{2}+\sqrt[3]{5}$ but I can see how to continue
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Prove that $\sqrt{45}$ is irrational (using Euclid’s Lemma)

Prove that $\sqrt{45}$ is irrational (using Euclid’s Lemma) Assume $\sqrt{45}$ is rational. By definition of rational : $\sqrt{p}=\frac{a}{b}$= $\sqrt{45}$=$\frac{a}{b}$ for some $a,b$ integers and ...
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Proving $\sqrt[4]{4}$ is irrational

Prove: $\sqrt[4]{4}$ is irrational I know that $\sqrt{p}$ is irrational where $p$ is a prime number. So $\sqrt[4]{4}=\sqrt[4]{2*2}=16*\sqrt[4]{2}=16*2^{\frac{1}{2}^\frac{1}{2}}$ What can I say ...
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determine the frontier

determine the frontier of the set R\Q (where R is the real numbers and Q is the rational numbers). I figured R\Q is the same as saying the real line minus all the rational numbers which would just ...
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Check the validity of a statement concerning functional continuity and limits at infinity, perhaps also involving a bit of real-number analysis [duplicate]

I've been stuck on this problem: If $f\in C(0,+\infty)$, and $f(na)\to 0$ as $n\to +\infty$ for every $a>0$, then is $$\lim_{x\to+\infty}f(x)=0$$ also true? If we replace continuity by ...
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Proof that this is an irrational number

Prove that $2\sqrt2 + \sqrt7 $ is an irrational number. I am trying to use contradiction to show that this is irrational. Also I am using the fact that $ 2\sqrt2 + \sqrt7 = \frac{1}{2\sqrt2 - ...
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Prove that $\sqrt{5}+1$ is irrational

I'm guessing this is pretty basic, but I've been struggling with this for a while now. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Why a segment of length $\sqrt{2}$ can be drawn but a segment of length $\pi$ cannot?

We know that both $\pi$ and $\sqrt{2}$ are irrational. Also, it has been proved that a segment of length $\pi$ can not be drawn whereas a segment of length $\sqrt{2}$ can be drawn. Why is it so, ...
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A question of rationality of integral powers

Given $a,b\in\mathbb{Z}$, is $x$ from $a^x=b$ ever rational? More specifically, is $x$ in $2^x=3$ irrational?
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Finding a 10-digit pattern in the decimal expansion of a normal number?

Is there any way to estimate how "deep" we'd need to go into the decimal expansion of a normal number to find a specific string of digits, say a 10-digit pattern? What about a 100-digit pattern?
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Does $\sin n$ have a maximum value for natural number $n$?

In formal, does there exist $k\in\mathbb{N}$ such that $\sin n\leq\sin k$ for all $n\in\mathbb{N}$?
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Is $\sqrt[2]{(2/7)}$ irrational?

I have to show that the $\sqrt(2/7)$ is irrational. Here is my work.
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Neighbors of Irrational Numbers on Real Number Line

I was looking at a post on MathOverflow about "What is your favorite 'strange' function?" One of the answers mentioned Thomae's function claiming that the function was "continuous at all irrationals ...
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Characterizing the roots of rational numbers

I am trying to prove the statement: if $n \in \mathbb{Q}$ and $\sqrt[m]{n} \in \mathbb{Q}$ for all positive integers, then $n = 1$. In my work, I have done all the work given by the top answer to ...
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Are irrational numbers irrational by nature? [duplicate]

I remember hearing an interesting theory once, I don't know the source. Since there are some numbers that are precisely expressible in decimal notation that repeat in a binary base, and vice versa, ...
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How to obtain the negative rational numbers

Is there any formula for generating negative rational numbers? Can Calkin–Wilf tree be used for negative numbers?
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why is the value of $(-1)^\frac{2}{3}$ not 1?

$(-1)^2$ equals 1 also $(-1)^\frac{1}{3}$ equals -1 any way you arrange it, it should be one. how ever, typing this into Wolfram or google,gives me an irrational complex number. I would love some ...
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Is it possible to represent every irrational number as a (limit of) an infinite sum of rational numbers? [duplicate]

For instance, we can certainly represent π in this fashion. $$ \frac{\pi}{4} \;=\; \sum_{n=0}^\infty \, \frac{(-1)^n}{2n+1} .\! $$ $\ln(2)$ is also irrational. And even that can be represented as an ...
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Prove rational sum and product of two irrational numbers

I need to prove that $$\exists a,b \in \mathbb{R} \setminus \mathbb{Q} : a + b, ab \in \mathbb{Q}$$ Any ideas? I, unfortunately, don't have one yet. The most obvious way with equations in integers ...
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If $x$ is an irrational number, then $3x^2 + 2$ is an irrational number? [closed]

Prove or disprove using direct or indirect proof that if $x$ is irrational, then $3x^2 + 2$ is irrational? Thank you in advance.
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Is $\pi^0$ actually rational? How about $\pi^i$? [duplicate]

Is there a rational argument that a transcendental or irrational number raised to zero should magically turn it into an integer, beyond obtuse convention? How about $\pi^i$? Is there a reasonable ...
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Alternative prrof of $\sqrt 2 $ (and $\sqrt {\text {of any non square integer}}$ ) not being rational

Long time ago for an assignment, I submitted an alternative proof of $\sqrt 2$ not being rational along the following lines: suppose $\frac{a^2}{b^2}=2$ then we must also have $a=b+n$ for $a,b,n$ ...
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Prove that $\sqrt{2+\sqrt 3}$ is irrational [closed]

Prove that $\sqrt{2+\sqrt3}$ is irrational. I can't seem to figure this one out.
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Irrationality of $x$ if $x > 1$ and $x^x = 2$

Show that if $x>1$ and $x^x=2$, then $x$ must be irrational. I know you have to show that it cannot be reduced into a form $\frac pq$, but get stuck with quite ugly algebra.
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For integers $n \neq 0$ is $\sin n$ irrational or transcendental?

For integers $n \neq 0$ is $\sin n$ irrational or transcendental? This arose from another question. I would hypothesize yes and yes, possibly with proof for irrationality existing and but not for ...
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Is $|\sin(n)|\leq1$ or $|\sin(n)|<1$ for integer $n$?

$\pi$ is irrational, therefore there exist no finite integers $m,n$ such that $n=(m+\frac{1}{2})\pi$, therefore there is no $\sin(n)=\pm1$. So if n defined to be a finite integer, I am comfortable ...
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How do we know $\pi$ cannot be expressed a root [duplicate]

In other words, is there a proof that $\pi^a\neq b$ where $a,b\in \mathbb{Z}$?
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What are irrational real numbers?

I was given a question saying: "One can show that the union of two countable sets is countable. Is the set of irrational real numbers countable?" I don't know what irrational real numbers ...
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Is there a pythagorean triple such that all angles of the corresponding triangle are simple fractions of $\pi$?

Obviously, the most interesting pythagorean triple $(a, b, c)$ would be one for which the corresponding triangle (with integer side lengths $a, b, c$) has angles 90°, 60° and 30° ($\frac{\pi}{2}, ...