Questions about real numbers not expressible as the quotient of two integers. For questions on determining whether a number is irrational, use the (rationality-testing) tag instead.

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Roots of $z^r=1,r\notin\mathbb{Q}$

If $a,b\in\mathbb{Z}$, and $\frac a b$ is in lowest terms, then $$z^{\frac a b}=1\\\implies z=\exp\left(\frac{2\pi in b}{a}\right)\forall n\in\mathbb{Z}$$ This means that $z$ has exactly $a$ distinct ...
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Representation of irrationals as $\sum_{n\ge 2}\frac{x_n}{n!}$

Prove that every $x\in(0,1)\setminus\mathbb{Q}$ has a unique representation as $x = \sum_{n\ge 2}\frac{x_n}{n!}$, where $x_n\in\mathbb{Z}_n = \{0,1,2,\ldots,n-1\}$. Probably this is well known, I'd ...
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Can permutating the digits of an irrational/transcendental number give any other such number?

Let $x_n$ be the infinite sequence of decimal digits of a fixed irrational/trascendental number. Can I obtain any other irrational/trascendental number's sequence of decimal digits through a ...
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Constructive proof that algebraic numbers form a field

We know that the set $\mathbb{A}$ of algebraic numbers is a field. But there is a constructive proof of this statement? I.e. : given a sum (or a product) of numbers of the form $\sqrt[n]{q}$ with $ q ...
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$\sqrt{m_1}+\sqrt{m_2}+ \cdots + \sqrt{m_n}$ is Irrational

If $m_1 , m_2, \cdots m_n$ are natural numbers where at least one of them is not a perfect square, then how do I prove that the sum $$\sqrt{m_1}+\sqrt{m_2}+ \cdots + \sqrt{m_n}$$ is irrational? I'm ...
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Prove that the quotient of a nonzero rational number and an irrational number is irrational

$0\neq a\in \mathbb Q, b\in \mathbb R \setminus\mathbb Q \text{ (b is irrational)}$ Prove that $\frac a b$ is irrational. From defintion $a=\frac m n$ such that $m,n\in \mathbb Z, n\neq 0$. ...
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“Multivariable” version of this lemma about showing analytically that a number is irrational.

Lemma: let $\alpha \in \mathbb{R}^+$ and $p_1,p_2,\dots, q_1, q_2, \ldots \in \mathbb{N}$ such that $\left|\alpha q_n - p_n \right| \neq 0$ for all $n \in \mathbb{N}$ and $$ \lim_{n ...
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Can we deduce that $⌊r^{n}α⌋≃r^{n}α$ when $r→∞$?

Let $α∈(0,1)$ be an irrational number and let $n≥1$ be a fixed positive integer. For any $r>4$ we define the positive integer $$k=⌊r^{n}α⌋$$ where $⌊.⌋$ denotes the floor function. My question is: ...
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What do we mean when we say an irrational number can't be expressed as a fraction?

An irrational number is one such that it cannot be expressed by a fraction, but consider the definition of the Golden Ratio. Two line segments, call one a and the other b, are said to be of the ...
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$e^{\pi\sqrt N}$ is very close to an integer for some smallish $N$s. What about $\pi^{e\sqrt N}$?

Heegner numbers (1, 2, 3, 7, 11, 19, 43, 67, 163 - let's use symbol $H_n$) are know for peculiar property that $e^{\pi\sqrt{H_n}}$ are almost integers: $$e^{\pi \sqrt{19}} \approx 96^3+744-0.22$$ ...
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Is the sum of all irrational numbers between two integers rational?

Is the sum of all irrational numbers between any two integer constants rational? I think it should be, because every irrational number should have another irrational with which it would sum to a ...
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Irrationals forming rationals

Can we obtain every rational number from the multiplication of two irrational numbers? If not, which ones can we not obtain?
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Transcendental a infinitely close to rationals?

Apologies that this question is rather vague, but I do not know how to state it more precisely. Is, say pi, infinitely "close" to some rational number? More importantly, are all transcendental numbers ...
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Rational and irrational numbers

Consider $x$ a rational number. Let $\epsilon \geq 0$ be the minimal value such that $x + \epsilon$ is irrational, and let also $\gamma > 0$ be the minimal value such that $x+\gamma$ is rational. ...
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Different types of transcendental numbers based on continued-fraction representation

I've been reading Wikipedia's article on continued fractions. A few examples are given for the continued-fraction representation of irrational numbers: $\sqrt{19}=[4;2,1,3,1,2,8,2,1,3,1,2,8,\dots]$ ...
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Does ${\frac{k}{2\left(1-H\right)}} + \frac{1}{H}\in Z$ when $H$ is irrational and $k \in Z^{+}$?

While working on something, I have stumbled across the following expression $$\frac{\Gamma \left({\frac{k}{2\left(1-H\right)}} + \frac{1}{2H}\right)}{\Gamma \left(\frac{1}{2H}\right)}$$ where $0 < ...
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Find $(1+i)^i$ in simpler terms, without imaginary exponents. [duplicate]

I was asked to find $(1+i)^i$, I don't know what to do when there is an imaginary component in the exponent. since $1+i=\sqrt{2}e^{-\frac{1}{4}i \pi}$ then $(1+i)^i = \sqrt{2}^i e^{\frac{1}{4} \pi}$ ...
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Extention of Euclid's GCD Algorithm. (The Art of Computer Programming, Volume 1, Edition 3, Section 1.2.1, Exercise 12)

Euclid's GCD algorithm which is used to find GCD of two input numbers, say, $c$ and $d$, needs the inputs to be positive integers. Exercise 12 provides an extension to this algorithm and allows $c$ ...
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I need to find a rational numbers series that converging to irrational number [duplicate]

I found a series that is $a_{n+1}=\frac{a_n^2 + 2}{2a_n}$ yet I'm not sure. can someone give me a more umm solid example? thanks.
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Integrating the normal distribution over rational numbers?

Is it possible to integrate the normal distribution over rational numbers? What is the value of such integral? Is it $\pi$ minus the integral over irrational numbers?
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Sets of irrationals whose square contains a rational

Let $S$ be a subset of the irrationals. Also, lets assume that $S$ has infinitely many elements. My very general question is, under what non-trivial conditions does there exist an element $x\in S$ ...
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Question about $\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\dfrac{|\sin(n)|}{n}$. [duplicate]

In several places on this site the sum $\displaystyle\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\dfrac{\sin(n)}{n}$ has been discussed as a generalized alternating series, which therefore converges. I am curious about the ...
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Real number system

Is the set of rationals a subset of the irrationals? I always assumed it was, but given that irrationals are defined to be numbers that have an infinite, non-repeating decimal expansion, there cannot ...
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About the continuity of $f(x) = \underset{q_k \leq x}{\sum_{k \in \mathbb{N}}} 2^{-k}$

Let $q: \mathbb{N} \to \mathbb{Q}$ be a bijection and denote the image of $k \in \mathbb{N}$ by $q_k$. Let $f: \mathbb{R} \to (0,1)$, $$ f(x) = \underset{q_k \leq x}{\sum_{k \in \mathbb{N}}} 2^{-k} ...
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What's the value of tau?

I've seen $\tau$ on a title of a YouTube video and I need help knowing what the value is. I'm serious. I've never heard of the value. So, what is it? Also, is it rational or irrational (this part ...
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Irrational numbers in between $n$ and $n+1$

Is the amount of irrationals numbers in between consecutive integers always the same? is this amount infinite?
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A positive integer with is not a perfect square is a product of distinct prime factors

This was used as part of the explanation for the following question, but I don't see why it is true. How to understand Apostol's proof of the irrationality of $\sqrt{n}$ if $n$ is not a perfect ...
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There are infinitely many $\frac{m}{n}\in\mathbb Q$ such that $|x- \frac{m}{n} |<\frac{1}{n^2}$

Let $x$ be an irrational number. Prove that there are infinitely many rational numbers $\frac{m}{n}$ such that $$|x- \frac{m}{n} |<\frac{1}{n^2}$$ It's clear that $-1<1/n^2 <1$ with ...
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An Impossible Ratio

I'm facing a bit of a difficulty thinking about the aspect ratio of A4 paper. The beauty of this paper size is that when it is folded in half along the longer side, it becomes A5 paper which has ...
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Which irrationals are contained in the Cantor set?

It is well known that the Cantor set is uncountable. Hence it contains irrationals. What are the 'nice' irrationals in the Cantor set. Here, I am expecting irrational numbers in the form of square ...
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Roots of polynomials: Vieta's Formula

Let $p_n(t) = c_0 + c_1 t + c_2 t^2 + \ldots + c_n t^n$ with $c_i \in \mathbb{Q}$ and let the roots of $p_n(t) = 0$ be $R = \{r_1, r_2, \ldots r_n \}$. Vieta's formula states that $\sum_{i=1}^n r_i = ...
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Cardinality of set of Dedekind cuts (elementary)

Under the Dedekind construction the irrationals are defined as those cuts $(A,B)$ where $B$ has no least element ($A$ not having a greatest element by definition), for example the $q^2=2$ case. I can ...
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How do you solve a logarithm with a non-integer base?

How would one calculate the log of a number where the base isn't an integer (in particular, an irrational number)? For example: $$0.5^x = 8 \textrm{ (where } x = -3\textrm{)}$$ $$\log_{0.5}8 = -3$$ ...
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Is $\mathbb{R}\setminus\mathbb{Q}$ a union of countable family of closed sets?

Can we represent set of irrational numbers as union of countable family of closed sets?
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How to prove that the problem cannot be solved by the four Arithmetic Operations?

The original prolbem is as in the figure: Suppose the square has unit side length, find the area of blue region. The exact solution is: $$\begin{aligned}S=&\frac{\pi-\sqrt{7}}{4}+2 ...
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Does there exist a function that is continuous at every rational point and discontinuous at every irrational point? And vice versa?

Actually there are 2 questions, but they are closely related. Does it exist a function that is: Continuous at every rational point and discontinuous at every irrational point? Continuous at ...
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A density question

Let $\theta \in \mathbb{R} \setminus \mathbb{Q}$. Is the set $\{ (2n+1) \theta \bmod 1: n \in \mathbb{N} \}$ dense in $[0,1]$?
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Identify irrational basis of $\mathbb{Q}$-vector space

A real sequence $\mathbf{x}=(x_k)_{k\in\mathbb{N}_0}$ is of the form $$ x_k=\alpha r_k,\quad \alpha\in\mathbb{R}\backslash\mathbb{Q},\quad r_k\in\mathbb{Q},\tag{*} $$ if and only if all of its terms ...
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How to show that the product of two irrational numbers may be irrational?

Show that the product of two irrational numbers may be irrational. You may use any facts you know about the real numbers. All we know is that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational and that $\sqrt{2}\cdot ...
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How do irrational numbers lie on the number line?

If we construct a square with side length 1, take its diagonal length : $\sqrt{2}$ However I still don't understand HOW it can lie on the number line. Imagine another irrational number $\pi = ...
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Constraining mathematics to a subset of $\mathbb{R}$

Let's imagine we're only using rational numbers for everything in mathematics. Problems arise quite soon when you try to calculate diagonals of squares or perhaps roots of something like $f(x)=x^2-2$. ...
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Does every plane curve contain a rational point?

Does every plane curve contain a rational point? I think the answer is yes, but I can not prove this. Please help. However, if it is possible to build a pathological curve - without rational points, ...
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Systematic way to represent any irrational number

I'm wondering if there's a way to symbolically (or is there a more lose constraint?) represent ANY irrational number in a systematic way. You can represent any rational number as two integers and I ...
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Is it possible to not have irrational numbers?

(Math noob question): Is there a base that can be used like binary that produces no irrational numbers or numbers with an infinite amount of one number after the decimal (don't know the name)? I feel ...
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$\Bbb{Q}$ is not complete: Carification regarding a proof

In class today we proved that $\Bbb{Q}$ is not complet, you used the fact that $$ \sum_{k=0}^N\frac{1}{k!}\underset{N\to+\infty}{\longrightarrow}e\notin\Bbb{Q}.$$ After that I was perplex to prove ...
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rational number plane vector space or not?

Two questions: 1. Is $\mathbb{Q}^2$ a vector space over the field $\mathbb{Q}$? 2. Is $\mathbb{Q}^2$ a vector space over the field $\mathbb{R}$? My answer to the first question is yes. Because the ...
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Application of the Rational Roots Theorem

Let f(x)=3x$^3$ - 40x$^2$ + 97x + 10 a. Find a rational number r such that f(r) = 0. (Hint: Use the rational roots theorem to narrow down possibilities for r.) So, I figured this part out. write r ...
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Monotone increasing sequence of rationals with an irrational limit

I am trying to use rationals in order to approximate irrationals. Is it possible to construct a monotonically increasing sequence of rationals the limit of which is an irrational? If so, how?
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There is at most one way to represent a number as $a+b\sqrt 2$ with rational $a,b$

If $a,b,c,d\in\mathbb Q$ and $a+b\sqrt 2= c + d\sqrt 2$, then prove $a=c$ and $b=d$ ? I don't have any idea to solve this , it's freaking me out.
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Irrational roots of unity?

Is it possible to take irrational roots of unity? For example, say I wanted to solve $f(x)=(x+1)^{\sqrt{2}}=1$. I found that one solution is the obvious $x=0$, and another one can be written nicely as ...