Questions about real numbers not expressible as the quotient of two integers. For questions on determining whether a number is irrational, use the (rationality-testing) tag instead.

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Some questions about proofs of irrational numbers

I have some questions about some things I want to clarify in regard to basic questions that ask to show that roots are irrational, for example $\sqrt{3}$, $\sqrt{5}$ and $\sqrt{6}$. To me, I think ...
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Randomness in pi and other irrational numbers [duplicate]

This is a post I read about pi while looking for stuff about tau -which is two times as much as pi. This makes me wonder, why does only pi contain such randomness? Don't other non-repeating and ...
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About the vertices of a regular polygon in the plane having rational coordinates [on hold]

I have to prove that, except in the case $n=4$, the vertices of a regular $n$-agon in the Euclidean plane cannot have all rational coordinates $(x,y)$. Some idea?
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Does a bijection from the reals to the any binary form?

It is fairly simple to store all rational numbers in a binary format (not base 2) (a language composed of only 1s and 0s, no . marking) by simply storing one integer, a seperator, and another integer. ...
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If $\pi$ is not algebraic number then : is $\pi ^{n}$ algebraic number for $n >1$?

if $\pi$ is not algebraic number then : is $$\pi ^{n}$$ algebraic number for $n >1$ ? Thank you for any kind of help .
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LCM of irrationals

So, I was recently asked by a friend about the lcm of two irrational numbers. As far as I know, mathematically speaking, lcm is generally defined only for positive integers (and sometimes extended to ...
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Is a non-zero integral multiple of an irrational number guaranteed to be irrational?

I got to wondering if a non-zero integral multiple of any irrational number is guaranteed to be irrational? This seems intuitive but I can't prove it to myself. There is an answer on this site with ...
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Conway's box function generalized as a hierarchy of nested sets of real numbers

Conway's box function is the inverse of Minkowski's question mark function. It maps the dyadic rationals on the unit interval to the rationals using the Stern-Brocot tree (Farey sequence). When the ...
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Riemann integral of a non continuous function

We have a function $f : I=[0,1] \rightarrow \mathbb{R}$ defined as: $$f(x)=\begin{cases} 1 &\text{if }x\in \mathbb{Q} \\ 0 &\text{if }x\in \mathbb{R}\setminus\mathbb{Q} \end{cases}$$ a) Show ...
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Transcendence of $\Gamma(1/3), \Gamma(1/4)$

Wikipedia mentions that the transcendence of $\Gamma(1/3), \Gamma(1/4)$ was proved by G. V. Chudnovsky. Does anyone have a reference to that proof? Or maybe some details on the essential ideas ...
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Very simple proof that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational.

I came across a nice-looking proof that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational here. It somehow seems to good to be true. What are the assumptions being made in the proof and if this proof is indeed correct, why is ...
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Line of Irrational Length? [duplicate]

If we drew a line of irrational length using pythagorean theorem, then is the length of the line really irrational? Can line of irrational length really exist? Will it be possible for a computer with ...
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Do the second-last-digits of the primes $\ge 11$ form a transcendental number?

Suppose, the number $x$ is constructed from the second-last-digits from the primes $\ge 11$ The first $1996$ digits of $x\ =\ 0.11112...$ after the decimal point are : ...
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The irrationality of rapidly converging series

I recently saw a pretty elegant proof of the irrationality of $e$, namely: Let $s_n:=\sum_{k=0}^{n}{\frac{1}{k!}}$ such that $e=\lim_{n\to\infty} s_n$. We obviously have $s_n<e$ and furthermore ...
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Unknown Possible Irrational Number Determination

I have a particular sequence, the coefficients determined by the generating function: $$\frac{2e^x}{e^{2x}+1+2x}=\sum_{n=0}^\infty\varepsilon_n\frac{x^n}{n!}$$ The first few numbers are ...
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The product of xy of two real numbers x and y is irrational then at least one of the x or y must be irrational. [duplicate]

Prove if true or find a counterexample.... The product of $x y $ of two real numbers $x$ and $y$ is irrational then at least one of the $x$ or $y$ must be irrational.
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why doesn't proof of sum of two rational number is rational not proving the irreducibility of fraction $\frac{ad+bc}{bd}$?

When I was comparing proof for $\sqrt{2}$ and sum of two rational numbers, I found that the proof of two rational number did not mention anything about common factor in the ratio. one proof I found ...
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What is wrong with my reasoning? (Irrational numbers / Fibonacci sequence) [closed]

I just noticed that: We define a procedure $\mathcal{I}:\mathbb{R}\rightarrow \mathbb{R}$ that output a real number. The probability to obtain an irrational or rational number via $\mathcal{I}$ is ...
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Why the set of irrational numbers is represented as $\mathbb{R}\setminus\mathbb{Q}$ instead of $\mathbb{R}-\mathbb{Q}$?

What does the "\" symbol means in this context? I have seen it used for quotient sets like $X /{\sim}$ where $X$ is a set and $\sim$ is an equivalence relation but I don't know what it means applied ...
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What is the most unusual proof you know that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational?

What is the most unusual proof you know that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational? Here is my favorite: Theorem: $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational. Proof: $3^2-2\cdot 2^2 = 1$. (That's it) That is a ...
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Finding $n$th root of 2 is irrational using given polynomial

The polynomial $f(x)$ is defined by $f(x)=x^n + a_{n-1}x^{n-1}+ \cdots + a_{2}x^2+a_1x+a_0$ where $n \geq 2$ and the coefficients $a_0, \cdots, a_{n-1}$ are integers, with $a_0 \neq 0$. ...
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On Diophantine approximation and irrationality proofs

This question is an offshoot from this previous MSE post. I have a ratio of two numbers $a$ and $b$ (presumably both positive integers), where $a$ and $b$ are determined by some arithmetic / ...
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Showing $r\in\mathbb Q\setminus \{0\}\implies e^r\notin \mathbb Q$

For a given $n>0$, let $\displaystyle J_n:x\to \frac{1}{n!}\int_{-x}^x(x^2-t^2)^ne^tdt$ a. Prove that there exists $A_n,B_n\in \mathbb R_n[X]$ such that $\forall x\in \mathbb R^+, ...
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Computing irrational numbers

I am genuinely curious, how do people compute decimal digits of irrational numbers in general, and $\pi$ or nth roots of integers in particular? How do they reach arbitrary accuracy?
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Homework 8th grader: $\pi^2$ is irrational

I'm tutoring a girl in 8th grade (so she is 14 years old) and she recently had a mathematics chapter about numbers. In the last paragraph they introduced the difference between rational and irrational ...
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Show: t(x) = x√2 + √3 is irrational. Hint: consider t(x)²

Earlier in the question we were asked to show that the square root of 6 is irrational, which I did. But I can't seem to figure the last part out. I have included an image for reference. Help is ...
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Is there any known application for normal numbers?

Background: I am writing a master thesis on the complexity of the expansions of algebraic numbers in some complex basis $\beta$ with $|\beta| > 1$. This is a very small step towards proving the ...
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Does an irrational number $C$ exist such that $C \cdot \sqrt 2 \in \Bbb{Q}$?

Does an irrational number $C$ exist such that $C \cdot \sqrt 2 \in \Bbb{Q}$, where $\sqrt2 \not\mid C$? I just thought of this, I'm trying to find answers that aren't of the form $C=a\sqrt2, ...
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Is an irrational number odd or even?

My sister just asked this question to me: "Is an irrational number odd or even?" I told her that decimals are not odd or even and that does imply that not recurring and non repeating decimals will ...
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Several values of irrational exponentiation

When talking about a number to a rational exponent, there are as many answers as the denominator of the exponent. Like the question: Is $9^{1/2}$ equal to $3$ or $-3$. However when we have an ...
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Incommensurable units as ratios

I am having a bit of trouble understanding the concept of an incommensurable unit. From what I have gathered so far, it is simply a magnitude that cannot be expressed as the ratio of two natural ...
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Approximating non-rational roots by a rational roots for a quadratic equation

Let $a,b,c$ be integers and suppose the equation $f(x)=ax^2+bx+c=0$ has an irrational root $r$. Let $u=\frac p q$ be any rational number such that $|u-r|<1$. Prove that $\frac 1 {q^2} \leq |f(u)| ...
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Number raised to power of irrational number

What is the consequence of raising a number to the power of irrational number? Ex: $2^\pi , 5^\sqrt2$ Does this mathematically makes sense? (Are there any problems in physics world where we ...
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Problem understanding this specific proof that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational.

The proof (taken from http://www.themathpage.com/aPreCalc/rational-irrational-numbers.htm#proof): "To prove that there is no rational number whose square is 2, suppose there were. Then we could ...
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Find the relationship between $n$ and $m$ (both natural numbers) such that $m^{1/n}$ is a rational number.

I know how to show that specific numbers such as $2^{1/2}, 2^{1/3}, 3^{1/2}, etc.,$ are irrational, but what about the general form $m^{1/n}$?
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The sum $\sum_{n=1}^\infty \min_{k\le n}\{\alpha k\}$ for irrational $\alpha$

Let $\alpha$ be an irrational number. For every $n$ let $z_n$ be the integer closest to the number $\alpha n$. Then we can define $$A(\alpha):= \sum_{n=1}^\infty |\alpha n - z_n|.$$ We can also ...
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Is $12^{1/3}$ irrational?

Is $12^{1/3}$ irrational? Give a proof that justifies your answer So far I have: Suppose $12^{1/3}$ is rational.This means there exists integers a and b such that $12^{1/3} = \frac{a}{b}$ where ...
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Rational Irrational Numbers

I know that a rational number can always be expressed as a fraction, but can't we also say that it is a number that follows a definite pattern? Like one-third for example; it is never ending as a ...
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when index is irrational number with inequality

Let $x>0$, show that $$x^{\sqrt{3}}+x^{\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}}+1\ge 3\left(\dfrac{1+x}{2}\right)^{\sqrt{3}}$$ we consider $$f(x)=2^{\sqrt{3}}(x^{\sqrt{3}}+x^{\dfrac{\sqrt{3}}{2}}+1)- ...
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By induction, show that $\sqrt{p}\notin\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{p_1},\sqrt{p_2},\cdots,\sqrt{p_k})$ [duplicate]

By induction, show that $\sqrt{p}\notin\mathbb{Q}(\sqrt{p_1},\sqrt{p_2},\cdots,\sqrt{p_k})$ where $p_1,p_2,\cdots ,p_k,p$ are distinct primes. My try: For $k=1, ...
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If all the numbers $(1^\alpha,\,2^\alpha,\,3^\alpha,\,\dotsc)$ are integer, then $\alpha$ is an integer.

A theorem of Siegel asserts that If $\beta>0$ and $2^\beta,\,3^\beta,\,5^\beta$ are integers, then $\beta$ is an integer. The following result is a beautiful consequence of this theorem ...
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Irrational number multiplied by its fractional part becomes rational (SOLVED)

Here's a Korean middle school midterm problem I've been struggling for quite some time now. "$X$ is an irrational number such that $X>0$, and $Y$ is fractional part of $X$. If $$X^2+Y^2=27$$, find ...
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Irrational Numbers : Show that $0.1248163264…$ is irrational

I was working through some basic Number Theory Problems in Rosen and came across the following problem : Show that the real number $0.1248163264...$ represented in ...
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“Length” of rationals in an interval

For $x \in \mathbb{R}$, define $r(x)$ as follows: $$ r(x)= \begin{cases} 1 &\text{if $x$ is rational},\\ 0 &\text{if $x$ is irrational}. \end{cases} $$ Q. What is $\int_0^1 r(x) dx$ ? I ...
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Difficult Complex Number Proof. Given $|w| =1$ or $|v|=1$ [closed]

Let $z, w$ be distinct complex numbers. Show that if $|z| = 1$ or $|w| = 1$, then $$\left|\frac{w-z}{1-\overline{w}z}\right| = 1$$ Hint: Note that $|a|^2 = a\overline a$ I have been ...
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Definition of irrational number

What is a formal definition of a irrational number? Usually, we say that it is a number that it is not rational. Is it enough?
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Closeness of $n! \ x$ to integers for irrational $x$

This question came up in the comments to another question. Is there an irrational number $x$ such that, for sufficiently large $n$, the product $$ n! \ x $$ is arbitrarily close to an integer? More ...
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When do we know for sure that we have the correct digits of an irrational number?

This comes from a programming assignment I was given using MATLAB. The objective was to calculate the difference between $\pi/4$ and the Leibniz series for computing $\pi/4$ with $n = 200$. This ...
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Continued fraction for $[1,2,3,4,5,6,\dots]$ [duplicate]

Any continued fraction that does not terminate or repeat can't be rational or a quadratic irrational. It is not hard to write something that does not fit these two categories. Can we still get a ...
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Show that $4^\frac{1}{3}$ is an algebraic number?

How do you show that $4^\frac{1}{3}$ is an algebraic number? I don't understand the question nor how to begin on describing the proof to show what the question is asking.