Questions about real numbers not expressible as the quotient of two integers. For questions on determining whether a number is irrational, use the (rationality-testing) tag instead.

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Is $\sqrt2+\pi$ irrational?

From this, as a layman I wonder if the same goes for $\sqrt2+\pi$? How about $\pi+\log2$?
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Can a change of basis modify irrationality/transcendence?

Fix a real number $x$. We can consider its binary expansion, for instance $x = (0.01101001100101101001011\ldots)_2$. Now we consider the real number $y = (0.01101001100101101001011\ldots)_{10}$ : we ...
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Expansion of $(1+\sqrt{2})^n$

I was asked to show that $\forall n\in \mathbb N$ there exist a p $\in \mathbb N $* such that $$(1+\sqrt{2})^n = \sqrt{p} + \sqrt{p-1}$$ I used induction but it wasn't fruitful,so I tried to use the ...
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Pugh's exercise on Dedekind cuts addition

I am trying to solve the following exercise: Let $x=A|B$ and $x'=A'|B'$ be cuts in $\mathbb{Q}$. Show that although $B+B'$ is disjoint from $A+A'$, it may happen in degenerate cases that $\mathbb{Q}$ ...
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Proving $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational: why $ q = p - \frac{p^2 -2}{p+2}$ [duplicate]

I've just begun self-studying Rubin's Principals of Mathematical Analysis. I'm having difficulty understanding a specific line in example 1.1 (proving $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational). Specifically, I'm ...
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Intuitive reconciliation between Dedekind cuts and uncountable irrationals

I've looked around, haven't found a good explanation of this one. Basically, I'm looking for the simplest route to get from these starting points: The set of all rational numbers is countably ...
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Writing continued fractions of irrational numbers as infinite series

Infinite sums have been formulated for famous irrational numbers, such as $\pi, \phi,e,\sqrt2$ and a few others that can be listed here and here: Here are some examples: (There are more examples ...
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For $\pm\sqrt 1\pm\sqrt 2 \pm\sqrt 3 \pm\cdots\pm\sqrt {2009}$, show there is a choice of signs such that it is irrational [on hold]

Considering $$\pm\sqrt 1\pm\sqrt 2 \pm\sqrt 3 \pm\cdots\pm\sqrt {2009}$$ where you can replace each $\pm$ with $+$ or $-$. Prove that there is at least one choice of signs such that the number is ...
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Are there any natural proofs of irrationality using the decimal characterization?

Mathematicians typically define rational number to mean quotient of two integers. It is not hard to show that a number is rational by that definition if and only if its decimal expansion terminates ...
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The relationship between tan(x) and square roots

Please note: I am working in DEGREES I think the easiest way to illustrate my point is by showing some examples: $ \tan(0^\circ) = \sqrt 0 = 0$ $ \tan(22.5^\circ) = \sqrt 2 -1$ $ 3 \cdot \tan(30 ^...
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Any real number has at most two decimal representations [closed]

Here, Tao says that any real number has at most two decimal representations. Is this really true? I always thought $\pi$ has only one decimal representation.
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Is $\pi e$ irrational? [duplicate]

During our ongoing research, we need to prove that $\pi e<\lceil \pi e\rceil$. Is $\pi e$ irrational? How to prove it? Thanks- mike
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$\pi$ and $e$ as coded trajectories

Question about the number $\pi$ and $e$ and their unpredictability. We know that $\pi=3.141592653589793238462643383279502884...$ Suppose that we are in the origin of the plane i.e. at the point $(0,0)...
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Notation for representing ANY number?

i'm working on a mathematics/number-manipulation program, and i was wondering if you could practically have a representation that could holds the value of any number. This would need to include ...
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Greedy algorithm Egyptian fractions for irrational numbers - patterns and irrationality proofs

This is related to another question on this site, but it's not a duplicate, because the actual questions I ask are completely different. In one of the answers Jeffrey Shallit provided a very useful ...
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Proof of $\pi^e$ and $e^\pi$ Being Irrational

By contradiction, if $\pi^e$ were rational, then we could write $\pi^e=\frac{a}{b}$ where $a,b\in\mathbb{I}^+$ and $b\neq0$. So: $$\begin{align} \\ \pi^e&=\frac{a}{b} \\ e\ln(\pi)&=\ln(a)-\...
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What is the term for 'PI-indexing'?

As a teenager - the concept of irrational numbers fascinated me. The idea that all possible numbers existed in PI. From that I reasoned that any piece of data you have now also existed in PI ...
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Can an irrational number be expressed as a sum of other irrational numbers, at least one of which is not an integral multiple of the required number?

For example, $\pi = Ae + B\sqrt 2+ \cdots$ ($A,B,\ldots\in\mathbb R$) (Equations like "$\pi = 3\pi - 2\pi$" are not allowed.)
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Irrationality of a real number $b$ that is related to a real number $a$ by the umbral Taylor series.

Given the sequence $\{a_0,a_1,...a_x\}$ then we may represent $a_n=\sum_{i=0}^{\infty} \Delta^i (0) {n \choose i}$. Where $\Delta^i(0)$ represents the operation mapping $a_n$ to $a_{n+1}-a_n$ iterated ...
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Addition, subtraction, multiplication and division of irrational numbers, correct to $n$ decimal places

Suppose we want to do one of the four basic arithmetic operations on two irrational numbers, and we want some confidence that our answer is correct to $n$ significant figures/decimal places. Doing ...
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Help needed in proof that $\sqrt2$ is irrational

In the following proof that $\sqrt2$ is irrational, I cannot make sense of why $\frac{q a_n + p b_n}{q} \geqslant \frac{1}{q}$. The sums corresponding to $a_n$ and $b_n$ are alternating sums, so why ...
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Integer polynomial on integer values: dense mod $\pi$?

I was trying to answer the question at How to show that this limit does not exists? I was able to show that $\sin(n^2)$ does not tend to a limit, but am still unable to show that $n^2$ itself is ...
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Is $\zeta(2n+1)\notin (2\pi)^{2n+1}\mathbb{Q}$ already known?

Is it already shown or at least conjectured that $$\zeta(2n+1)\notin (2\pi)^{2n+1}\mathbb{Q}?$$ You have any names and years who proved or conjectured it?
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What is already known for $\zeta(n)$, $n\in 2\mathbb{N}+1$

Apéry showed $\zeta(3)\notin\mathbb{Q}$. What is also known or conjectured for $\zeta(n)$ with n odd? Is for example something known for $\zeta(5)$? Is there a theorem that says 'at least one of $\...
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Why are we interested in such things as $\zeta(3)\notin\mathbb{Q}$? [closed]

In 17xx Euler gived a formula for the real numbers $\zeta(2n),~n\ge 1,$ which showed the irrationality of $\zeta(2n)$. In 1975 Apéry showed $\zeta(3)\notin\mathbb{Q}$. Why are we interested in such ...
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Question on a proof of $\zeta(3)\notin\mathbb{Q}$

I have a question on this article proving $\zeta(3)\notin\mathbb{Q}.$ by using modular forms. This is theorem 1 at page 275 (page 5 in the pdf). Most things in the proof are clear but I don't get the ...
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For $\forall m \in \mathbb{N}, m \ge 3$ there are m elements of S in arithmetic progression.

Let $S=\{[n\pi], n \in \mathbb{N}\}$. Prove $\forall m \in \mathbb{N}, m \ge 3$ there are $m$ elements of $S$ in arithmetic progression. I don't know how to prove it, but I have the feeling the ...
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$\{\{(2^n+3^m)\alpha\}:n,m\in\mathbb{N}\}$ is dense in [0,1]??

Let $\alpha$ be an irrational real number. I wonder whether $\{\{(2^n+3^m)\alpha\}:n,m\in\mathbb{N}\}$ is dense in [0,1] in which $\{x\}$ means the fractional part of x. This is equivalent to the ...
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Proof of an irrationality criterion

I have attached a proposition whose proof I don't understand at two points. Here are my questions: Why do we have $|a_{0n}+\theta_{1}a_{1n}+\dots+\theta_{k}a_{kn}|<(\rho-\varepsilon)^{-n}$ for ...
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Nearest neighbor of an irrational number

I am confused in my thoughts about the irrational numbers in real line. My confusion is: If $x\in$$\mathbb R$$-\mathbb Q$ then for $\epsilon>0$ as small as you please, the element ($x+\epsilon$) ...
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Is the infinite decimal fraction $1.23456…n$ irrational?

How to prove that the number $ 1.23456\dots n$ is an irrational number? The number consist, of course, of natural numbers in increasing sequence.
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Confusion about irrational numbers

Irrational numbers is defined as something that cannot be expressed as a fraction . Now I got a question . So is "120%" an integer or irrational number ? Do I take 120% as 1.2 or just 120% as an ...
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How can I prove $\sqrt{2} ^{\sqrt{2}}$ is irrational? [duplicate]

I am learning proofs and a question was posed which asked us to prove that $\sqrt{2}^{\sqrt{2}}$ is irrational. They mentioned this - Hint: try using the log10 function... I tried my hand at the ...
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Show that $E \subset \Bbb Q$ is closed in $(\Bbb Q, d)$

Assume $(\Bbb Q, d),$ $d(p, q):= |p -q|$ is a metric space and $E := \{p \in \Bbb Q : 2 < p^2 < 3\} \subset \Bbb Q.$ I have to show that $E$ is closed. I see two ways of proving ...
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Visual representation of the fact that there are more irrational than rational numbers.

Would anybody know of a visual or even (preferably) geometric representation of this? To make it more specific: Text, symbols and written numbers are predominantly used as labels, and and less to ...
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Proving by contradiction (6/9)

I have been given a statement that I need to prove using the contradiction method and I am just a little unsure of how to go about setting this up and executing. Here is the statement: If x is any ...
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Polynomial taking irrationals to irrationals

Problem: Find all polynomials from $\mathbb{R}\to \mathbb{R}$ $f$ with integer coefficients taking irrationals to irrationals. My attempt: It is clear that the problem statement is equivalent to ...
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Proof that $\sqrt[n]{a+1}$ and $\sqrt[n]{a-1}$ cannot be both rationals [duplicate]

Let $a \neq 0$ be a natural number. How can be proved that $\sqrt[n] {a+1}$ and $\sqrt[n]{a-1}$ cannot be both rational numbers?
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Prove $2^{1/2}+3^{1/3}$ is irrational using Galois theory.

So, I want to prove that $2^{1/2}+3^{1/3}$ is irrational, and I need to prove it using Galois theory. To start, let's forget about the sum and deal with the individual numbers and $F_1 = \mathbb{Q}(...
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Can we apply binomial theorem for $\quad(a+b)^\ell\quad$ if $\ell\;$ irrational.

Let be$\quad a,b\;\in\mathbb R\quad, \ell\;\in\mathbb {(R\backslash Q)} \quad $ ($\ell:$irrational) Can we apply binomial theorem for $\quad(a+b)^\ell$
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A sum of irrational numbers ending rational

Let $x$ be a positive irrational number I know that there exists $y$ such that: $$\begin{cases} y>0 \\ x+y\in \mathbb Q.\end{cases}$$ How would you construct explicitly such $y$ ? For instance ...
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Difference between rationalizing factor and conjugate surd

I have some confusion regarding rationalizing factor and conjugate surd. For binomial surds for example $2+\sqrt{3}$ is conjugate of $2-\sqrt{3}$ and it is also rationalizing factor of $2+\sqrt{3}$. ...
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Is there any $\alpha$ for which $e^{\alpha}$ is an integer?

Is there any $\alpha$ which gives $e^{\alpha}$ an integer. $\alpha=0$ is the trivial one. But is there any other than $0$?
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Are all hypotenuses irrational if the shorter sides are integers?

Is it sufficient to say that providing the shorter two sides of a right triangle can be expressed as integers that work out to equal the value of the hypotenuse, then the value of the hypotenuse must ...
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Show that $θ_0 < Arg (z^α) < θ_0+\epsilon$ for infinitely many values of $z^α$, where $−π < θ_0 < π$ and $ \epsilon > 0$

For $z \neq 0$ and $α$ irrational, show that $θ_0 < Arg (z^α) < θ_0+\epsilon$ for infinitely many values of $z^α$, where $−π < θ_0 < π$ and $ \epsilon > 0$. I am trying to solve this ...
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when product of irrational numbers = rational number?

let $a$ and $b$ be irrational numbers. when do we have $ a \cdot b $ = rational number? for example $\sqrt{2} \cdot \sqrt{2}=2$. I was wondering if there some conditions for the product to be a ...
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Which elements of $\mathbb{R}$ make sense as representatives for cosets of $\mathbb{Q}$ in the group $\mathbb{R/Q}$

I am trying to better understand the group $\mathbb{R/Q}$. It's unclear to me when two irrational numbers will give the same coset of $\mathbb{Q}$, but I know that this must happen since, for example $...
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Prove $\pi+e$ or $\pi e$ is transcendental. [closed]

I understand to prove at least one of them irrational you would compose a function by which $\pi$ and $e$ are roots $((x-\pi)(x-e))$, and show that at least one coefficient cannot be rational because $...
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For irrational real number $r$, find $n \in \mathbb{Z}$ such that $|nr - [nr]| < 10^{-10}$.

This problem is from the book "A Walk Through Combinatorics" by Richard Bona. For any irrational number $r$, there exists a positive integer $n$ such that the distance of $nr$ from the nearest ...
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Show that there are at most two rational points on $(x - a)^2 + (y - b)^2 = r^2$ for $a, b$ irrational.

For any given irrational numbers $a, b$ and real number $r \gt 0$, show that there are at most two rational points (points whose coordinates are both rational numbers) on the circle $(x - a)^2 + (y - ...