Numbers not expressible as a ratio of two integers. Examples: $\sqrt{2},\phi,e,\pi,\zeta(3)$. Some of them are algebraic ($\sqrt{2},\phi$) and some transcendental ($e,\pi$).

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Prove that $\sqrt[n]{2}+\sqrt[n]{3}$ is irrational for every natural $n \ge 2$.

I want to prove that that $\sqrt[n]{2}$ + $\sqrt[n]{3}$ is irrational for every natural $n \ge 2$. I tried to use some theorem of minimal polynomials, but I get nothing. Also i tried to assume that ...
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For which values of $n$, the real part of the $n$-th root of unity is a quadratic irrational?

For which values of $n$, the real part of the $n$-th root of unity is a quadratic irrational? That is, when is it a root of a quadratic polynomial with integer coefficients? I believe that the answer ...
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Unit Quaternion to a Scalar Power

I'm trying to modify a physics engine for efficiency. Currently, as objects move around the world, their orientation (a quaternion) is updated every frame, by multiplying by the rotation (another ...
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New mathematical constant formed by continued fraction with prime numbers?

Notational convention: $$\bigoplus_{k=0}^{\infty}a_k=a_0+\cfrac{1}{a_1+\cfrac{1}{a_2+\cfrac{1}{a_3+\cfrac{1}{\ddots}}}}$$ Let $$ P:=\bigoplus_{k=1}^{\infty}p_k$$ where $p_k$ is the k-th prime ...
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Under what conditions can $a\sqrt{b} \pm c\sqrt{d}$ be written as $u+v\sqrt{w}$?

Let $a,b,c,d \ge 1$ be integers with $b$ and $d$ nonsquare and $a\sqrt{b} \ge c\sqrt{d}$. Now I have three related questions: Under what conditions can one find $u,v,w$ such that $a\sqrt{b} \pm ...
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Can any two irrational numbers NOT of the form (m+A) and (n-A) be added to produce a rational number?

$m$ and $n$ being rational numbers, A being an irrational number. I was wondering if two irrational numbers when added always yield an irrational number. All the counter-examples I could find were of ...
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How to prove that a number is irrational

We write all postive whole integers after the comma, how do we prove that this is an irrational number? ($0.1234567891011121314...$)
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Proving irrational number between two rational numbers. [duplicate]

Does this proof make sense? Show that between any two real numbers there is an irrational number. ∃ x,y ∈Q ∋:x Consider the number n/√2 where n is a natural number and n/√2>1/(y-x). This means ...
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Prove that the square root of 3 is irrational [duplicate]

I'm trying to do this proof by contradiction. I know I have to use a lemma to establish that if $x$ is divisible by $3$, then $x^2$ is divisible by $3$. The lemma is the easy part. Any thoughts? How ...
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Are there any general results about the irrationality of $a^{\frac{p}{q}}$?

Are there any general results about the irrationality of $a^{\frac{p}{q}}$ for $a\in\mathbb{Z}^+$, $p,q\in\mathbb{Z}$, $q\neq 0$ and $a\neq 1$?
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Periodicity with irrational numbers

Recently, I invented the following theorem and found a proof, it seems strange since it is very counter-intuitive to me. The proof is long and non-conceptual. Is there a place or a branch of math ...
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How to know equation solution irrational

I would appreciate if somebody could help me with the following problem Q: Is the solution of the equation $$2\cos^2\pi x+\cos \pi x-2=0 $$ irrational ?
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Periodicity with irrational numbers

Recently, I composed the following math problem and found a solution, it seems strange since it is very counter-intuitive to me. Is there a place or a branch of math where I can read about it? Or at ...
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Calculate digits of pi without needing to reuse them

I am looking for some algorithms that can calculate digits of pi. without needing to reuse previous digits. I would like to find the most simple and fast algorithms possible. Thanks!
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Verify if the following demonstration is correct

THEOREM: "There are $a, b$ irrationals, such that $a^b$ is rational." PROOF: " If $\sqrt{2} ^ \sqrt{2}$ is rational, $a = b = \sqrt{2}$, otherwise, $a = \sqrt{2} ^ \sqrt{2}$ and $b = \sqrt{2}$, so ...
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Represent non-integer values on the factorial base

I want to compute the representation of the following values using the factorial number system: $\pi$ $e$ $\phi$ I know how to do it for integer values, but is it feasible for non-integer values? ...
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Are there any number systems better suited to nature?

For example, number such as $\pi$ and $e$ cannot be represented as rational numbers in our number study and extend in decimal places to infinity. QUESTION: Is there a possibility that some other ...
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Is this irrationality proof correct?

Consider a non-square integer $n$. If its square root was rational, then we would have $$\sqrt n=\frac{a}{b}$$ for some $a,b\in\mathbb{Z}$ and so $a^2=nb^2$. But this is impossible, because $n$ is ...
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Yet another product of irrational numbers

Let $~\alpha~$ and $~\beta~$ be irrational numbers such that $$~\alpha \notin \{\beta, -\beta\}$$ and $$~\alpha \notin \left\{\frac{1}{\beta}, -\frac{1}{\beta}\right\}$$ I suppose that in this case ...
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square root of 2 irrational - alternative proof

I have found the following alternative proof online. It looks amazingly elegant but I wonder if it is correct. I mean: should it not state that $(\sqrt{2}-1)\cdot k \in \mathbb{N}$ to be able to ...
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What type of numbers are roots of $x^{2} = -1$ themselves?

Are the roots $i, -i$ themselves irrational numbers or complex numbers or left auxiliary so that undefined?
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Help with determining irrationality of a number?

I am trying to prove: If $\cos(\pi\alpha) = \frac{1}{3}$ then $\alpha \in \mathbb{R} \setminus \mathbb{Q}$ So far, I've tried making it into an exponential, since exponentials are easier to ...
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How do I check if intervals can be nested?

Hi I'm in grade 10 and I'm doing nested intervals. Under my current circumstances I am unable to have a teacher, so I'm self teaching with the help of textbooks. I understand very, very basic ...
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Prove that if $x$ and $y$ are irrational numbers, there exists an irrational number $z$ such that $y < z < x$

My teacher proposed this question a few days ago along with the similar case for rational numbers. I've already figured out the proof for rational numbers (just prove that their arithmetic mean is ...
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Cantor diagonal argument; related number

I was reading another question on mse about cantors proof and I'm curious about a number that could be defined from it. Well there could be a whole heap of them, but one for now. Define $A=\Bbb{Q} ...
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Correctness of the proof that the set $\{x \in \mathbb{Q} : x>0 \text{ and } x^2>2\}$ does not have a smallest element

Let $F=\{x \in \mathbb{Q} : x>0 \text{ and } x^2>2\}$. I am asked to show that $F$ does not have a smallest element. The hint is to simply prove the claim: 'If $p$ is a rational number in ...
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Process to show that $\sqrt 2+\sqrt[3] 3$ is irrational

How can I prove that the sum $\sqrt 2+\sqrt[3] 3$ is an irrational number ??
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Can one prove existence of incommensurables without the Pythagorean theorem?

Euclid's proof that the side and the diagonal of a square have no common measure, probably going back to Pythagoreans, reduces it to proving the irrationality of $\sqrt{2}$. This reduction uses the ...
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Example of a proof using the axiom of commensurability

I'm teaching our intro to proofs course (well, one of them) and one of the classic illustrations of an overturned "axiom" is the Greek axiom of commensurability, which stated in geometric terms the ...
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If $q^n$ is irrational for all $n>1$, then $q$ is irrational.

Theorem. Let $q \in \mathbb{R}$ an arbitrary given number. If $q^n$ is irrational for all $n>1$ integer, then $q$ is irrational. My Questions. What is a the name of this statement and what is the ...
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How is circle closed?

I have this thought that circle in 'real' is not a closed figure. We all know that 'pi' is irrational.And integers are nodes in a 'monstrous' line of real numbers. Irrational numbers are ...
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Is $\ln\sqrt{2}$ irrational?

I know that the natural log of any positive algebraic number is transcendental, as a consequence of the Lindemann-Weierstrass theorem, but what about the natural log of the square root of two (which ...
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What is the limit of $k^2|\pi-n(k)/k |$, where $k$ minimizes $|k\pi -n|$?

Let $k\in \mathbb N$ and for any such n, let $k=k(n)$ minimizes the distance $|k\pi-n|\leq 2 \pi$. It is clear that, by fixing the value of $n$, it is possible to choose $k$ (and vice versa). ...
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Rational values of $\sin(\log(x))$

Apart from the trivial solution $\sin(\log(1))=0$, is $$\sin(\log(x))$$ ever rational if $x$ is rational?
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How do you multiply infinite quantities?

Out of curiosity I was watching this video from njwildberger on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DNlEq0ZrTo Where he says that you can't define associativity between irrational numbers ...
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Existence of a sequence of integers $\lbrace a_k\rbrace_{k\geq 1}$ so that the first $k$ digits of $a_k\alpha$ are $0$ where $\alpha$ is irrational.

Let $\alpha$ be an irrational number. Is there a sequence $\lbrace a_k\rbrace_{k\geq 1}$ of integers so that the first $k$ digits of the fractional part of $a_k·\alpha$ are $0$? (in base $2$, for ...
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For an irrational number $a$ the fractional part of $na$ for $n\in\mathbb N$ is dense in $[0,1]$

How to prove that the $\{$ fractional part of $n\alpha\mid n \in \mathbb{N}$ $\}$ is dense in $[0,1]$ for an irrational number $\alpha$. NOTICE that $n$ is in $\mathbb{N}$ Also notice that this is ...
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$1$ is not congruent because of Fermat's Last Theorem?

I would like someone to explain something I did not understand. I was reading a page called "nuking the mosquito" where they give very complex proofs for very simple results. The proof I want to talk ...
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Irrational number “test”?

Suppose we have a finite quantity $a$, which we would like to prove to be irrational, supposing that it is indeed irrational. Then, would it be enough to show that ...
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Are numbers like $\left ( -2 \right )^{\sqrt{2}}$ real or complex?

I know that numbers with rational power can be converted to radicals and based on the degree of the radical we can say that whether they are real or complex. But what about numbers like $\left ( -2 ...
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Lambert's Original Proof that $\pi$ is irrational.

I am trying to find Lambert's original proof that $\pi$ is irrational. Wikipedia has a little description but it is quite lacking. Can someone direct me to Lambert's original proof or post his proof ...
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A question regarding irrational lengths in reality

I have a square stone slab 1 metre by metre, by the Pythagorean identity the diagonal from one corner to another is given as $\sqrt 2$. However $\sqrt 2$ is an irrational number, could someone ...
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Archimedes' Apprxomation of Square Roots

Supposing a square root $\sqrt{X}$, let $x$ be the approximation of $\sqrt{X}$, then we get these 2 formulas to estimate $\sqrt{X}$: $x_{n+1}=\frac{x_n+\frac{X}{x_n}}{2}$ and ...
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Help With a proof (Irrational Number)

Prove the following statement by proving its contrapositive: if $r$ is irrational, then $r^\frac{1}{5}$ is irrational. Its contrapositive will be: If $r^\frac{1}{5}$ is not irrational, then $r$ is ...
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Proof that $\sqrt[m]{a} + \sqrt[n]{b}$ is irrational

Is there a way to prove that $\sqrt[m]{a} + \sqrt[n]{b}$ ($\sqrt[m]{a}$ and $\sqrt[n]{b}$ are irrational); $a, b, m, n \in \mathbb{N}$; $m, n \neq 2$; is irrational without using the theorem mentioned ...
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$x+y\sqrt{2}$ infimum ($x,y\in \mathbb{Z}$)

I've looked for help with this question but I have not found anything, I hope this is not a duplicate. Define the set $A=\{\mid x+y\sqrt{2}\mid \ : x,y\in \mathbb{Z}\ \mbox{and} \mid ...
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Show that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational using integer root theorem

Show that $\sqrt{2}$ is irrational using integer root theorem. Let $P(x)=x^2-2$. Since $\sqrt{2}$ is a root of this polynomial, had it been a rational (suppose $\sqrt{2}=\frac{p}{q}$) no, by ...
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The minimum number of digits after the floating-point, which uniquely identify every irrational square root

Let the following: $B:$ a natural number larger than $1$ $S:$ a set of irrational numbers in the range $(0,1)$ represented in base $B$ $L:$ the minimal prefix length which uniquely identifies every ...
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How do we prove sqrt2 is irrational? [duplicate]

What kind of number is sqrt2, rational or irrational? And what are the analytic and non analytic ways of proving it?
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Deciding whether a number is rational (2 examples)

1) Prove that number irrational $\sqrt{7-\sqrt{2}}$ I created a polynomial $x=\sqrt{7-\sqrt{2}}$ so $P(x)=x^4-14x^2+47$ and since $47$ is prime we check $P(x)$ for $ {1,-1,47,-47}$ and since all of ...