Numbers not expressible as a ratio of two integers. Examples: $\sqrt{2},\phi,e,\pi,\zeta(3)$. Some of them are algebraic ($\sqrt{2},\phi$) and some transcendental ($e,\pi$).

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Types of real numbers [closed]

I would really appreciate the help,Give a counter example to disprove the statement "The product of two irrational numbers is irrational"?? Thanks in advance
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Definition of Rational/ Irrational Numbers reguarding denominators

The definition of a Irrational number is "Irrational numbers don't include integers OR fractions. However, irrational numbers can have a decimal value that continues forever WITHOUT a pattern." So ...
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Dimension of R over Q without cardinality argument. [duplicate]

I am looking for the easiest (elementary) proof that $\mathbb R$ is infinite dimensional as a $\mathbb Q$-vector space, without using cardinality. It should be understandable at highschool level. So ...
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Are there any non-trivial counterexamples to the non-closure of the irrational numbers over addition?

It is trivial to show that the set of irrational numbers is not closed under addition. Just choose an irrational number $p$ and add it to its additive inverse $-p$ to get $0\in\mathbb{Q}$. However, I ...
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Using decimals of $\pi$ to store data

I read recently about an idea to, instead of storing actual data, converting the data to a string of digits and then store the index of where this pattern occurs in some number, for example $\pi$. The ...
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How to find irrational approximates

Say I have a rational number, $n$, that approximates an irrational number of the form: $$n \approx {a+\sqrt b \over c}$$ in terms of being irrational. What is a good way of finding the unknown ...
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Does the absence of horizontal lines shows that there are no $n,m\in \mathbb{N}$ such that $n^2=2m^2$?

When I was learning about the proof of the irracionality of $\sqrt{2}$, I remember of trying to visualize it by ploting the graphs of $f(n)=n^2$ and $g(m)=2m^2$, but at the time I got confused and ...
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Using Descarte’s rule of signs to determine the number of positive roots.

Using the Descarte’s rule of signs to determine the number of positive roots. \begin{equation} f(q)=[(k_f+k_d+k_p*(1-q))(\lambda_b* \gamma ...
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Conjecture: if $a+b$ and $ab$ are rational, $a$ and $b$ are rational

I can't find a rigorous proof but I have a feeling it's true. Informal argument: Suppose $a+b$ and $ab$ are rational, $a$ and $b$ are irrational (since just one can't be irrational). Then $a$ and ...
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Show that $\arctan(n)$ is irrational for all $n \in \mathbb{N}$

Question : Show that $\arctan(n)$ is irrational for all $n \in \mathbb{N}$. Hint: My solution doesn't use continued fraction. I am interested in other possible proofs for this question.
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Is the fact that there are more irrational numbers than rational numbers useful?

Although it is known that the cardinality of the set of irrational numbers is greater than the cardinality of the set of rational numbers, is there any usefulness/applications of this fact outside of ...
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Prove that if $n \geq 2$, then $\sqrt[n]{n}$ is irrational. Hint, show that if $n \geq 2$, then $2^{n} > n$.

Prove that if $n \geq 2$, then $\sqrt[n]{n}$ is irrational. Hint, show that if $n \geq 2$, then $2^{n} > n$. So, my thought process was that I could show that $2^{n} > n$ using induction, but ...
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Does the limit of a sequence with floor function exist?

Question : Let $a_n=n\alpha-\lfloor n\alpha\rfloor\ (n=1,2,\cdots)$ where $\alpha$ is an irrational number. Then, does the limit $n\to\infty$ of $(a_n)^n$ exist? I know that ...
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How to prove that $\cos(n)$ is irrational?

We know that $\cos(1)$ is real and transcendental (1). Then by using the fact that for every $n \in \mathbb{N}$ there exists a polynomial $P_n$ of degree $n$ with integer coefficients such that ...
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Irrationality measure.

I would like someone to give me a definition of what irrationality measure is, I have stumbled over several definitions which may be equivalent but as I lack understanding I cant see this correlation. ...
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Can we prove that the solutions of $\int_0^y \sin(\sin(x)) dx =1$ are irrational?

Can we prove that the solutions of $$\int_0^y \sin(\sin(x)) dx =1$$ are irrational? Wolfram Alpha gives two approximate sets of solutions as $\{4.58+2\pi k|k\in\mathbb{Z}\}$ and $\{1.69+2\pi ...
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Real numbers that are not the roots of any polynomial equation with algebraic coefficients

An algebraic number is a number which is a root of some non-zero polynomial equation with rational coefficients. A transcendental number is a number which is not a root of any non-zero polynomial ...
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negative powers $(x^{-2} = 1/x^2)$

I need clarification for negative power of a number. I understand $x$ to the power of $2$ is equal to $x\cdot x$ But how $x$ to the power of $-2$ is equal to $\dfrac{1}{x^2}$ ?
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Integer algorithm

I have this equation: $$\ln_p y = x+\ln_k z$$ for $p, y, x, k, z \in \mathbb{N}$ Now consider that I have the values for $y$ and I can generate in anyway possible, the value for $x$. How would i ...
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“Building blocks” for computable functions

In an (otherwise very enlightening) answer to another question of mine the question came up What functions are allowed as building blocks for computable functions? I was astonished that there ...
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Why there are irrational numbers?

I do not quite get it. Why can't we represent all real numbers as a sum of rational numbers? Why do we need irrational numbers? For example, ...
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is $(\mathbb{Q} \times (\mathbb{R}\setminus\mathbb{Q}))\cup((\mathbb{R}\setminus\mathbb{Q})\times\mathbb{Q})$ connected? path connected?

let $$X=(\mathbb{Q} \times (\mathbb{R}\setminus\mathbb{Q}) ) \cup ((\mathbb{R}\setminus\mathbb{Q})\times\mathbb{Q}) $$ and let $$\tau=\tau (\text{euclid})$$ what are the connected components of ...
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Solving surds without compairing

Question: Let $a + \sqrt{2b} = 3 - 2\sqrt{2}$ .Find the value of $a - \sqrt{2b}$ What I did: I compared the whole numbers and the irrational numbers in both sides and calculated the answer $3 + ...
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A dense set on $[0,1)$

Let $x\in \mathbb{R}$ an irrational number. Define $X=\{nx-\lfloor nx\rfloor: n\in \mathbb{N}\}$. Prove that $X$ is dense on $[0,1)$. Can anyone give some hint to solve this problem? I tried ...
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Need help to simplify irrational equation

I have faced a problem simplifying this equation. . I tried to solve it this way: , but I just can't get the correct answer. This equation is from high school course, so it must have quite a simple ...
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A pretty much simple number theory problem

Let $x$ be an irrational number, and $n$ be a positive integer. Will there ever be a set of $(n,x)$ which satisfies $x(n-x) \in \mathbb{Z}$ ? If so, could you suggest those numbers? And, if not, ...
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Square root of an odd composite being irrational

Is there an odd composite number $n$ such that $\sqrt{n}$ is irrational?
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Is $i$ irrational?

On the one hand, $i(=\sqrt{-1})$ cannot be expressed as a ratio of integers, so, by definition, $i$ is not rational $\iff i$ is irrational. However, the set of irrational numbers, ...
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A question about decimal representation of irrational numbers.

Is this true that any finite word of the alphabet $\mathcal{A_9}=\{0,1,2, \ldots,8,9\}$ appears somewhere in the decimal representation of $\sqrt{2}$ ? Thanks !
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Related to $\pi$ and $\tau$ constants, are they transcendental, irrational, or rational numbers?

Below are three OEIS constant sequences and values. Are they transcendental, irrational, or rational numbers? Note: $\tau = 2*\pi$ and the last two values are in radians. A233700. Decimal ...
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The “trick” functions in the “$\pi$ is transcendental” proofs

I was reading this paper and I wondered how did Hermite decide to define a function $$f(x)=\frac{x^{p-1}(x-1)^p\cdots (x-m)^p}{(p-1)!}$$ Are these functions only tricks or there is a deeper meaning?
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Visualizing the square root of 2

A junior high school student I am tutoring asked me a question that stumped me - I was wondering if anyone could shed some light on it here. We were talking about how the square root of 2 is an ...
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Prove $\sqrt6$ is irrational

Suppose $\sqrt6 = \frac pq$ where $p$ and $q$ have no common factors. $$6 = \frac {p^2}{q^2}$$ $$6p^2 = q^2$$ So $q^2$ and therefore $q$ is divisible by $6$. $$p^2 = \frac {q^2}{6}$$ So $p^2$ ...
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Chinese estimate for $\pi$. Were they lucky?

The famous chinese estimate $\pi\approx\frac{355}{113}$ is good. I think that is too good. As a continued fraction: $$\pi=[3:7,15,1,292,\ldots]$$ That $292$ is a bit too big. Is there a reason for a ...
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Prove that $(4/5)^{\frac{4}{5}}$ is irrational

Prove that $(4/5)^{\frac{4}{5}}$ is irrational. My proof so far: Suppose for contradiction that $(4/5)^{\frac{4}{5}}$ is rational. Then $(4/5)^{\frac{4}{5}}$=$\dfrac{p}{q}$, where $p$,$q$ are ...
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Euclidean geometry and irrational numbers.

I was wondering, given a square that is $1 \times 1$, how can we know that the diagonal is an irrational length geometrically??? We could use the Pythagorean Theorem to see that the diagonal of a ...
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Looking for irrational Numbers Proof [duplicate]

$a,b,c,~$and $d$ are rational numbers. $b>0$ and $d>0$ the $\sqrt{b}$ and the $\sqrt{d}$ are both irrational. if $a+\sqrt{b}=c+\sqrt{d}$ show that $a = c$ and $b = d$. I know that a=c and ...
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Is it possible that $\pi$ is finite in other numerical bases?

In base $\pi$, the number $\pi$ is $1\cdot \pi^1 + 0\cdot \pi ^ 0 $, which is equal to $10$. So, is $\pi$ an irrational number in all bases or not?
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Is there any combination of numbers which upon division gives the exact number of P?

In other words, there are (probably) infinite combination of numbers/operations which leads to irrational numbers. So I wonder, if there is one which gives exact number representation of P(π)? Do we ...
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$\lim \{r^n\}$ exists, Is $r$ an integer?

$r\in\Bbb R$, $|r|\gt1$ and $\lim\limits_{n\to\infty}\{r^n\}$ exists. Can one conclude that $r$ is an integer? Here, $\{x\}=x-[x] $ is the fractional part of $x\in\Bbb R$ If $r\in\Bbb Q$, the ...
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Is Dirichlet's function enough to prove constants like $\gamma$ irrational?

This function appears without any reference in the book The Irrationals : $$\lim_{m\to\infty}\lim_{n\to\infty} \cos^{2n}(m!\pi x)=\left\{ \begin{array}{lr} 1 & : x \in \mathbb{Q}\\ ...
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If $\sum\frac1{a_n}$ is convergent, then irrational?

$\{a_n\}$ is a strictly increasing sequence of positive integers such that $$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{a_{n+1}}{ a_n}=1$$ If $\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty\frac1{a_n}$ is convergent, can one conclude ...
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Do circles exist

So I was wondering about circles today and if they really do exsist. If you graph a circle in function mode, your equation looks like$$y=\sqrt{1-x^2}$$ Now for simple purposes lets take a portion of ...
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Is $\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty\frac1{a_n}$ irrational?

$\{a_n\}$ is a strictly increasing sequence of positive integers such that $$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{a_{n+1}}{ a_n}=+\infty$$ Can one conclude that $\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty\frac1{a_n}$ is an ...
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$\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty\frac1{a_n}$ is irrational

$\{a_n\}$ is a strictly increasing sequence of positive integers such that $$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac{a_{n+1}}{a_1a_2\dotsb a_n}=+\infty$$ then $\sum\limits_{n=1}^\infty\frac1{a_n}$ is an irrational ...
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Help proving a theorem in my textbook

If $r \in \mathbb{N}$ is not a perfect square, then $\sqrt{r}$ is irrational. For reference, an integer $n$ is a perfect square if $n=m^2$ for some $m \in \mathbb{Z}$. Any help proving this ...
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Help with a proof my professor gave my class

Let $x,y \in \mathbb{R}$ with $x<y$. There exists an irrational number $z$ such that $x<z<y$. My proof so far: Let $x,y \in \mathbb{R}$ and assume $x<y$. Then, by Theorem 11.8 (in ...
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Irrationality of $\pi$ another proof

Proposition. Let $\alpha\in\mathbb{R}$. If there is a sequence of integers $a_n,b_n$ such that $0<|b_n\alpha-a_n|\longrightarrow 0^+$ as $n\longrightarrow \infty$, then $\alpha$ is irrational. ...
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Irrationality Measure $x\in \mathbb{Q} \Longleftrightarrow \mu(x)=1$

Let $x$ be a real number, and let $R$ be the set of positive real numbers $\mu$ for which $$0<|x-\frac{p}{q}|<\frac{1}{q^{\mu}}$$ has (at most) finitely many solutions $p/q$ for $p$ and $q$ ...
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Help with a proof that sequence of rational numbers $ a_n = \frac {a_{n-1} + \frac {2}{a_{n-1}}}{2}$ converges to an irrational, $\sqrt2$

I know that there are sequences of rational numbers with irrational limits. One in particular I've seen is $$ a_n = \frac {a_{n-1} + \frac {2}{a_{n-1}}}{2}$$ with $a_0 =1$, This is clearly rational ...