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Is it faster to count to the infinite going one by one or two by two? [closed]

A young child asked me this question yesterday: Would it be faster to count to the infinite going one by one or two by two? And I was split with these two answers: In both case it'll take an ...
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Are there real-life relations which are symmetric and reflexive but not transitive?

Inspired by Halmos (Naive Set Theory) . . . For each of these three possible properties [reflexivity, symmetry, and transitivity], find a relation that does not have that property but does have ...
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Why can't you pick socks using coin flips?

I'm teaching myself axiomatic set theory and I'm having some trouble getting my head around the axiom of choice. I (think I) understand what the axiom says, but I don't get why it is so 'contentious', ...
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How do I define a bijection between $(0,1)$ and $(0,1]$?

How do I define a bijection between $(0,1)$ and $(0,1]$? Or any other open and closed intervals? If the intervals are both open like $(-1,2)\text{ and }(-5,4)$ I do a cheap trick (don't know if ...
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How does Cantor's diagonal argument work?

I'm having trouble understanding Cantor's diagonal argument. Specifically, I do not understand how it proves that something is "uncountable". My understanding of the argument is that it takes the ...
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Refuting the Anti-Cantor Cranks

I occasionally have the opportunity to argue with anti-Cantor cranks, people who for some reason or the other attack the validity of Cantor's diagonalization proof of the uncountability of the real ...
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Proof that the irrational numbers are uncountable

Can someone point me to a proof that the set of irrational numbers is uncountable? I know how to show that the set $\mathbb{Q}$ of rational numbers is countable, but how would you show that the ...
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Is there a bijective map from $(0,1)$ to $\mathbb{R}$?

I couldn't find a bijective map from $(0,1)$ to $\mathbb{R}$. Is there any example?
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In set theory, how are real numbers represented as sets?

In set theory, if natural numbers are represented by nested sets that include the empty set, how are the rest of the real numbers represented as sets? Thanks for the answers. Several answers ...
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Why does the Dedekind Cut work well enough to define the Reals?

I am a seventeen year old high school student and I was studying some Real Analysis on my own. In the process, I encountered the Dedekind Cut being used to construct the Reals. I just can't get the ...
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difference between class, set , family and collection

In school I have always seen sets. But I was watching a video the other day about functors and they started talking about any set being a collection but not vice-versa and I also heard people talking ...
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Lamport claims there is an error in Kelley's proof of the Schroeder-Bernstein theorem. What is it?

In section 4.1 of his note How to write a proof, Leslie Lamport mentions an error in Kelley's exposition of the Schroeder-Bernstein theorem: Some twenty years ago, I decided to write a proof of ...
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How is the set of all programs countable?

I'm having a hard time seeing how the number of programs is not uncountable, since for every real number, you can create a program that's prints out that number. Doesn't that immediately establish ...
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Difference between bijection and isomorphism?

First, let me admit that I suffer from a fundamental confusion here, and so I will likely say something wrong. No pretenses here, just looking for a good explanation. There is a theorem from linear ...
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Cardinality of set of real continuous functions

The set of all ℝ → ℝ continuous functions is c. How to show that? Is there are bijection between ℝn and the set of continuous functions?
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A simple example of an uncountable set that is not $\mathbb{R}$

Let's suppose that I have only defined $\mathbb{N}$ and then I define the terms finite and infinite set, and also countable and uncountable set. I can think of some examples of finite, infinite and ...
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What does it mean for a set to exist?

Is there a precise meaning of the word 'exist', what does it mean for a set to exist? And what does it mean for a set to 'not exist' ? And what is a set, what is the precise definition of a set?
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If the infinite cardinals aleph-null, aleph-two, etc. continue indefinitely, is there any meaning in the idea of aleph-aleph-null?

If the infinite cardinals aleph-null, aleph-two, etc. continue indefinitely, is there any meaning in the idea of aleph-aleph-null? Apologies if this isn't a sensible question, I really don't know too ...
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Does $k+\aleph_0=\mathfrak{c}$ imply $k=\mathfrak{c}$ without the Axiom of Choice?

I'm currently reading a little deeper into the Axiom of Choice, and I'm pleasantly surprised to find it makes the arithmetic of infinite cardinals seem easy. With AC follows the Absorption Law of ...
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Proof that the real numbers are countable: Help with why this is wrong

I was just thinking about this recently, and I thought of a possible bijection between the natural numbers and the real numbers. First, take the numbers between zero and one, exclusive. The ...
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What's wrong with this proof of the infinity of primes?

While reviewing an online textbook in abstract algebra for my website—which I'm hoping will go live by the end of the month—one of the exercises in the book inspired me to produce a simple, set ...
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“$f$ is a function from $A$ to $B$” vs. “$f $is a function from $A$ into $B$”?

When we say that $f$ is a function from $A$ to $B$ is this different from saying $f$ is a function from $A$ into $B$ I know what injective ("1-1"), surjective ("onto"), and bijective ...
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Do infinity and zero really exist?

I'm not going to prove something, this is just a question. From the first day which I went to University until now I had some root problems in some basic mathematical assumptions and concepts. Please ...
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Does there exist a system such that the additive identity is non-zero?

I am trying to explain how although the additive identity is written as $0$, it is not the same as the number $0$. For example for a $2\times 2$ matrix the additive identity is $\begin{pmatrix} 0 ...
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Why isn't the Cantor Set contradictory?

So you start with a 1-dimensional stick, remove the middle third of it, leaving 2 pieces. From each of these 2 pieces, remove the middle third. Etc. Whatever is left at the end of infinitely many ...
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Why Doesn't Cantor's Diagonal Argument Also Apply to Natural Numbers?

In my understanding of Cantor's diagonal argument, we start by representing each of a set of real numbers as an infinite bit string. My question is, why can't we begin by representing each natural ...
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Characterising functions $f$ that can be written as $f = g \circ g$?

I'd like to characterise the functions that ‘have square roots’ in the function composition sense. That is, can a given function $f$ be written as $f = g \circ g$ (where $\circ$ is function ...
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What are good books/other readings for elementary set theory?

I am looking to expand my knowledge on set theory (which is pretty poor right now -- basic understanding of sets, power sets, and different (infinite) cardinalities). Are there any books that come to ...
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How to show $(a^b)^c=a^{bc}$ for arbitrary cardinal numbers?

One of the basic (and frequently used) properties of cardinal exponentiation is that $(a^b)^c=a^{bc}$. What is the proof of this fact? As Arturo pointed out in his comment, in computer science this ...
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How do you pronounce the inverse of the $\in$ relation? How do you say $G\ni x$?

If I am talking about sets $G$ and $H$ and I want to say in words that $G\subset H$, I, like everyone else, will say that $G$ is contained in $H$, or that $H$ contains $G$. But if I am talking about ...
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Build $\mathbb{R}$ from $\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{N})$

It's well known that $\mathbb{R}$ has the same cardinality as $\mathcal{P}(\mathbb{N})$; but I would fain know if there is a way to construct $(\mathbb{R}, +,\cdot, \leq )$ using only definitions that ...
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Show that the set of all finite subsets of $\mathbb{N}$ is countable.

Show that the set of all finite subsets of $\mathbb{N}$ is countable. I'm not sure how to do this problem. I keep trying to think of an explicit formula for 1-1 correspondence like adding all the ...
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Examples of bijective map from $\mathbb{R}^3\rightarrow \mathbb{R}$

Could any one give an example of a bijective map from $\mathbb{R}^3\rightarrow \mathbb{R}$? Thank you.
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Infinite product of measurable spaces

Suppose there is a family (can be infinite) of measurable spaces. What are the usual ways to define a sigma algebra on their Cartesian product? There is one way in the context of defining product ...
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Importance of Axiom of Choice

First a quick question regarding the definition of the axiom of choice. Do the sets have to be mutually disjoint nonempty sets or just non-empty? One source states: "For any set X of nonempty sets, ...
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Why study cardinals, ordinals and the like?

Why is the study of infinite cardinals, ordinals and the like so prevalent in set theory and logic? What's so interesting about infinite cardinals beyond $\aleph _0 $ and $\mathfrak{c} $? It seems ...
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Is there a bijection between $(0,1)$ and $\mathbb{R}$ that preserves rationality?

While reading about cardinality, I've seen a few examples of bijections from the open unit interval $(0,1)$ to $\mathbb{R}$, one example being the function defined by $f(x)=\tan\pi(2x-1)/2$. Another ...
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Overview of basic results on cardinal arithmetic

Are there some good overviews of basic formulas about addition, multiplication and exponentiation of cardinals (preferably available online)?
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The Aleph numbers and infinity in calculus.

I have a fairly fundamental question. What is the difference between infinity as shown by the aleph numbers and the infinity we see in algebra and calculus? Are they interchangeable/transposable in ...
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Bijection between $\mathbb{R}$ and $\mathbb{R}/\mathbb{Q}$

I was wondering if it is possible to produce an explicit bijection $h\colon \mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{R}/\mathbb{Q}$. If we can produce an explicit injection $i\colon \mathbb{R} \rightarrow ...
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Existence of an infinite set included in a circle with rational coordinates.

I am trying the following exercise: Let $\mathcal {C}$ the set of points of a circle with center $O$ and radius $1$ with rational coordinates. Show that there exists a infinite set $\mathcal{D} ...
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Why Are the Reals Uncountable?

Let us start by clarifying this a bit. I am aware of some proofs that irrationals/reals are uncountable. My issue comes by way of some properties of the reals. These issues can be summed up by the ...
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Set builder notation, left or right of :| convention

Set builder notation which specify a subset such as $Z$ or $R$ tend to put this condition on the left, whereas other conditions go on the right. $$\{ x ∈ Z : x > 0 \}$$ Why is this preferred ...
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Cantor set and countability.

The Cantor set is closed, so its complement is open. So the complement can be written as a countable union of disjoint open intervals. Why can we not just enumerate all endpoints of the countably ...
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Cardinality of the set of all real functions of real variable

How does one compute the cardinality of the set of functions $f:\mathbb{R} \to \mathbb{R}$ (not necessarily continuous)?
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Construct a bijection from $\mathbb{R}$ to $\mathbb{R}\setminus S$, where $S$ is countable

Two questions: Find a bijective function from $(0,1)$ to $[0,1]$. I haven't found the solution to this since I saw it a few days ago. It strikes me as odd--mapping a open set into a closed set. $S$ ...
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Are there more rational numbers than integers?

I've been told that there are precisely the same number of rationals as there are of integers. The set of rationals is countably infinite, therefore every rational can be associated with a positive ...
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Axiom of Choice Examples

In the wikipedia article, two examples are given which use/ do not use the axiom of choice. They are: Given an infinite pair of socks, one needs AC to pick one sock out of each pair. Given an ...
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Produce an explicit bijection between rationals and naturals?

I remember my professor in college challenging me with this question, which I failed to answer satisfactorily: I know there exists a bijection between the rational numbers and the natural numbers, but ...
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What are the ways of proving that the Cantor set is uncountable apart from Cantor diagonalization?

What are the ways of proving that the Cantor set is uncountable apart from Cantor diagonalization? Are there any based on dynamical systems?