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Proving existence of a surjection $2^{\aleph_0} \to \aleph_1$ without AC

I'm quite sure I'm missing something obvious, but I can't seem to work out the following problem (web search indicates that it has a solution, but I didn't manage to locate one -- hence the ...
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prove cardinality rule $|A-B|=|B-A|\rightarrow|A|=|B|$

I need to prove this $|A-B|=|B-A|\rightarrow|A|=|B|$ I managed to come up with this: let $f:A-B\to B-A$ while $f$ is bijective. then define $g\colon A\to B$ as follows: $$g(x)=\begin{cases} ...
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What is the Cardinality of the Nameable Numbers?

Having just finished "Meta Math!" (Chaitin), I came across an interesting observation on infinite sets that I hadn't seen before. If I'm correct (and please let me know if I'm not): 1] There are ...
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How to understand the regular cardinal?

How to understand the regular cardinal? Could someone give me some examples?
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Cardinality of sets of subsets of $\mathbb{N}$

If we dont assume CH, is there a procedure to construct or define a set of subsets of $\mathbb{N}$ such that we cannot prove it to be of cardinality $\aleph_0$ or $\aleph_1$? Or if we assume not CH, ...
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is there a cardinality between the rational and the irrationals?

Was asked this question, and I have no idea about how to start proving it. Could someone give me some good reference material to start with.
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Are there more real numbers than we can actually imagine?

I mean, if we could imagine all the real numbers then we could assign each number a finite sentence (or a finite book). Since the set of the finite books is countable then the set of real numbers ...
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Proof that aleph null is the smallest transfinite number?

The wikipedia page on the cardinal numbers says that $\aleph_0$, the cardinality of the set of natural numbers, is the smallest transfinite number. It doesn't provide a proof. Similarly, this page ...
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What is the cardinality of the set of all sequences in $\mathbb{R}$ converging to a real number?

Let $a$ be an real number and let $S$ be the set of all sequences in $\mathbb{R}$ converging to $a$. What is the Cardinality of $S$? Thanks
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What is the cardinality of $\Bbb{R}^L$?

By $\Bbb{R}^L$, I mean the set that is interpreted as $\Bbb{R}$ in $L$, Godel's constructible universe. For concreteness, and to avoid definitional questions about $\Bbb{R}$, I'm looking at the set ...
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Confusion about cofinality

I'm confused about the notion of the cofinality of a cardinal. Since I think the source of the confusion is the Von Neumann cardinal assignment, my first question is: Question 0. Is there an article ...
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Is it viable to ask in an infinite set about the Cardinality?

Can you ask given an infinite set about its cardinality? Does an infinite set have a cardinality? So, for example, what would be the cardinality of $+\infty$?
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Why do the rationals, integers and naturals all have the same cardinality?

So I answered this question: Are all infinities equal? I believe my answer is correct, however one thing I couldn't explain fully, and which is bugging me, is why the rationals $\mathbb Q$, integers ...
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What is the product of finitely indexed alephs?

I'm simply curious about why the following equality holds: $ \displaystyle\prod_{n\lt\omega}\aleph_n=\aleph_\omega^{\aleph_0}. $ Much thanks!
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Skolem's paradox and models in set theory

Say you have a model $M$ (of $\mathsf{ZF}$) containing a set $S$ that you know is countable outside the model but the enumeration is missing from the model so that $S$ appears to be uncountable in ...
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Sum of cardinals without AC

Let $A$ and $B$ be infinite sets. To show $|A\cup B|=\max\{|A|,|B|\}$ we need AC. Now let us assume $|A|<|B|$. Can we show $|A\cup B|=|B|$ without AC?
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Cardinality of a some linear ordering is at most that of a given cardinal?

This is an intuitive idea that I've used for a while, but don't know how to explain formally. Suppose $(A,\prec)$ is some linear ordering, and each initial segment of $A$ has cardinality strictly ...
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In ZF, how would the structure of the cardinal numbers change by adopting this definition of cardinality?

In ZFC, a good way of ordering sets by cardinality is by leveraging the notion of an injection. We define: $$X \lesssim Y \leftrightarrow \mbox{ there exists an injection } X \rightarrow Y.$$ ...
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Can an infinite cardinal number be a sum of two smaller cardinal number?

Let $\kappa$ be an infinite cardinal number. My question is whether there are $\lambda$ and $\mu$ such that both $<\kappa$ but $\lambda+\mu=\kappa$? If AC holds, then the answer is definitely ...
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What is the product of all nonzero, finite cardinals?

To be specific, why does the following equality hold? $$ \prod_{0\lt n\lt\omega}n=2^{\aleph_0} $$
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mahlo and hyper-inaccessible cardinals

Wikipedia states that a Mahlo cardinal is hyper-inaccessible, hyper-hyper-inaccessible, etc. Is this a characterisation of Mahlo? If not what about "alpha = hyper^alpha-inaccessible" with the obvious ...
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What happens after the cardinality $\mathfrak{c}$?

While having measure theory this year the following came in my mind: When we go from finite objects to infinite we "lose" a lot of properties. For example the summation isn't well defined ...
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Can proper classes also have cardinality?

In some set theories such as ZF+GAC, in which GAC is global axiom of choice, the Von Neumann universe $V$ bijects to $Ord$, the class of ordinals. It suggests us that proper classes may also have ...
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Is there a way to define the “size” of an infinite set that takes into account “intuitive” differences between sets?

The usual way to define the "size" of an infinite set is through cardinality, so that e.g. the sets $\{1, 2, 3, 4, \ldots\}$ and $\{0, 1, 2, 3, 4, \ldots\}$ have the same cardinality. However, is this ...
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How to show $\kappa^{cf(\kappa)}>\kappa$?

For $\kappa \geq \omega$, which is a cardinal, then how to show $\kappa^{cf(\kappa)}>\kappa$? My idea: When $\kappa=\aleph_\omega$, then $cf(\kappa)=\omega$, is $\kappa^\omega>\kappa$? It seems ...
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Number of well-ordering relations on a well-orderable infinite set $A$?

Given a well-orderable infinite set $A$, can we always say that the set $$\left\{R\in A\times A:\langle A,R\rangle\, \text{is a well-ordering}\right\}$$ has cardinality $2^{|A|}$? How much Choice is ...
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Sequence of surjections imply choice

I am reading a paper where a side remark said that if a sequence $\langle g_\beta\colon\omega\to\beta\mid\beta<\omega_1\rangle$ is a sequence of surjections then $\omega_1$ is regular. I have ...
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How to prove that a regular cardinal cannot be expressed as a union of sets with less cardinality?

My question is about the following: Using the Axiom of Choice show that: If $\kappa\ge\omega$ is a regular cardinal, $\gamma\le\kappa$, and $\langle A_\alpha\mid\alpha\lt\gamma\rangle$ is a ...
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Question about the order of a Stationary subset of $ \kappa$

Greets I'm trying to prove one part of exercise 8.14 of Jech's "Set Theory", namely that if $o(k)\geq k$, then $k$ is weakly inaccessible, where $\kappa$ is regular; $o(\kappa)$ is defined as ...
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On cardinality of equivalence classes

Say $R$ is the set of all Riemann integrable functions $f:[a,b]\rightarrow \mathbb{R}$. We define an equivalence relation in $R$ as follows: $f$ and $g$ are said to be integrally equivalent iff they ...
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Effective cardinality

Consider $X,Y \subseteq \mathbb{N}$. We say that $X \equiv Y$ iff there exists a bijection between $X$ and $Y$. We say that $X \equiv_c Y$ iff there exist a bijective computable function between ...
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$\kappa <\operatorname{cf}(2^\kappa)$ without König's inequality

How can I prove $\kappa<\operatorname{cf}(2^\kappa)$ inequality without using König's inequality? We got this as a practice exercise, but I don't know how to approach this without König. Any hint ...
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How to explain that $\Bbb{R}$ is not countable to a non-mathematician

What is the best way to explain that $\Bbb{R}$ is not countable assuming that the audience is formed of people who are not mathematicians? I ask this because these days I'm in a debate with someone ...
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$V=L[A]$ implies GCH for $A\subset \aleph_1$

On page 14 of the introduction to Vol. II of Gödel's collected works: By a slightly more difficult argument one can show that GCH continues to hold if $V=L[a]$ and $a\subseteq\aleph_1$. Does ...
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Finding the cardinality of a set

I have to construct a few things before I get to my question: it's possible we don't need all of it, but I am stuck on the very last step so I should recap everything so far. Let $\kappa$ be a ...
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cardinality of infinite sets

prove or disprove: If two infinite sets $A$,$B$ have the same cardinality, then $A\cup B$ and $A$ have the same cardinality. I even cannot make a judgement. P.S: Can this be done without using ...
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What is the standard proof that $\dim(k^{\mathbb N})$ is uncountable?

This is my (silly) proof to a claim on top of p. 54 of Rotman's "Homological algebra". For $k$ an infinite field (the finite case is trivial) prove that $k^\mathbb{N}$, the $k$-space of functions ...
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AC iff $P(\delta)$ can be well-ordered for all $\delta\in{\bf On}$ [duplicate]

I'm trying to do the following exercise: Exercise. Assume ZF. Then AC is equivalent to the statement that $P(\delta)$ can be well-ordered for all $\delta\in{\bf On}$. I'm struggling with the ...
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About singular $\beth_{\alpha}$ for limit ordinals $\alpha$

Why are there cofinitely many regular cardinals of type $\beth_{\beta}$ below any given singular $\beth_{\alpha}$, if $\alpha$ is a limit ordinal?
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Is there an upper bound to the number of rings that can be obtained from a semigroup with zero by defining an additive operation?

Let $\mathscr S$ be the class of all semigroups with zero. For $(S,\times,0)\in\mathscr S,$ I want to count additive operations $+$ on $S$ such that $(S,+,\times,0)$ is a ring (possibly without ...
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Prove that transcendental numbers exist: Are there less paniful ways of doing it?

I've found this exercise on Boolos' Logic and Computability: A real number $x$ is called algebraic if it is a solution to some equation of the form: $$c_{\small d}x^{\small ...
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Show that open segment $(a,b)$, close segment $[a,b]$ have the same cardinality as $\mathbb{R}$

a) Show that any open segment $(a,b)$ with $a<b$ has the same cardinality as $\mathbb{R}$. b) Show that any closed segment $[a,b]$ with $a<b$ has the same cardinality as $\mathbb{R}$. ...
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Why are infinite cardinals limit ordinals?

My book states this as obvious, but it isn't so trivial to me. thanks
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$|\mathbb{R}^\mathbb{R}|$ vs $|P(\mathbb{R})|$ Which is bigger?

$|\mathbb{R}^\mathbb{R}|$ vs $|P(\mathbb{R})|$ where $\mathbb{R}^\mathbb{R} =\{f | f:\mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{R}\}$ Are they equal? Which is bigger? How can I prove it?
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Question about Generalized Continuum Hypothesis

I wonder how the Generalized Continuum Hypothesis reveal that $A\times A$ is equivalent to $A$? $A$ is any infinite set.
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In set theory, what does the symbol $\mathfrak d$ mean?

What's meaning of this symbol in set theory as following, which seems like $b$? I know the symbol such as $\omega$, $\omega_1$, and so on, however, what does it denote in the lemma? Thanks ...
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Cantor-Bernstein-like theorem: If $f\colon A\to B$ is injection and $g\colon A\to B$ is surjective, can we prove there is a bijection as well?

I've been trying to find this proof: If there exists $f \colon A\to B$ injective and $g \colon A \to B$ surjective, prove there exists $h \colon A \to B$ bijective. I thought of using ...
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Infinite sets with cardinality less than the natural numbers

Are there any infinite sets that have a lower cardinality than the natural numbers? Is there a proof of this?
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Question on a proof from Jech's Set Theory of: If $X$ is a set of cardinals, then $\sup X$ is a cardinal.

The proof: Let $\alpha= \sup X$. If $f$ is a bijective mapping of $\alpha$ onto some $\beta < \alpha$, let $\kappa \in X$ be such that $\beta < \kappa \le \alpha$. Then $|\kappa|=|\{f(\xi): \xi ...
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Is $\alpha^{\beta}=2^{\beta}$ for all infinite cardinalities $\alpha, \beta$?

Is $\alpha^{\beta}=2^{\beta}$ for all infinite cardinalities $\alpha, \beta$? I was wondering about this since I've encountered examples of times where this holds, but I can't seem to prove it myself ...