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$\bf\sf37.$ Evaluate $\iiint_E z\,dV,$ where $E$ lies above the paraboloid $z=x^2+y^2$ and below the plane $z=2y.$

In cylindrical coordinates the paraboloid is given by $z=r^2$ and the plane by $z=2r\sin\theta$ and they intersect in the circle $r=2\sin\theta$. Then $\iiint_E z\,dV=\int_0^\pi\int_0^{2r\sin\theta}rz\,dz\,dr\,d\theta=\tfrac{5\pi}6.$ [using a CAS]

The solution claims that the domain of integration $= \{ \, 0 \le \theta \le \color{red}{ \pi }, 0 \le r \le 2\sin\theta, r^2 \le z \le 2r \sin\theta \, \} $. Why isn’t the upper bound on $\theta$: $\color{red}{ 2 \pi } $?

$1.$ I know $ x^2 + y^2 = 2y \iff r = 2\sin\theta$. But how does this become the upper bound on $r$?

$2.$ Conforming to the solution, the projection (onto $z=0$) of the intersection of paraboloid and plane $= x^2 + y^2 = 2y \iff x^2 + (y - 1)^2 = 1$, a circle of radius 1 centered at $(0, 1)$.
Aren’t we concerned with this entire circle?

I tried to plot this:

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just to say I am thinking about this and hope to give a sufficient answer soon – ellya Jun 1 '14 at 19:16
also is the part in grey, the solution given in the book? – ellya Jun 1 '14 at 19:17
@ellya Yes, thank you! – Timere Jun 1 '14 at 19:25
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Okay, so the first thing to take into account, is that the intersection is a circle, but it is not parallel with the $xy$ plane, it is instead at an angle, which is what leads to what I would call an unorthodox parametrisation.

If we consider $\{0\le\theta\le\pi,0\le r\le 2\sin\theta\}$, this parametrises a circle, (it is actually the circle presented in Semsem's answer), I have entered if here in wolfram:

The reason that $2\sin\theta$ is the upperbound, is that it represents the length of the line from the origin $(0,0)$ to the point $(\theta,r)$, (when you consider the image in my link), (in my link just think of $x$ as $\theta$).

So all in all this answers $(1)$ and $(2)$, its just not the standard way of parameterising a circle.

the maximum value for $\theta$ is $\pi$ because $0\le\theta\le\pi$, is all that is needed to produce the circle, if you had $0\le\theta\le 2\pi$, this would go round the circle twice.

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+1. Thanks. And why is $pi$ the upper bound on $\theta$? – Timere Jun 1 '14 at 19:46
see my edit :), by the way was my answer for… sufficient? – ellya Jun 1 '14 at 19:49
Thank you. Yes. I'll return in a few days. – Timere Jun 2 '14 at 15:05
Okie doke, would hate to see that bounty go :) – ellya Jun 2 '14 at 15:11
  1. The projection is a circle as you indicated.
  2. The circle passing through the origin.
  3. The circle has center at $\color{red}{(0,1)}$ not $(0,0.5)$ and it has radius $\color{red}{1}$

So, the circle lies in the upper half of the xy-plane where $y\ge 0$.

  1. The radial arm ranges from o to 1
  2. The radial arm starts at $\theta=0$ on the positive x axis
  3. The radial arm covers the disk at $\theta=\pi$ on the negative x axis.

The following figures represent the projection on xy-plane

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Regrettably, I don't perceive your answer. Would you please elucidate in your answer (not as a comment)? – Timere Apr 4 '14 at 6:58
+1. Thank you effusively for your continual care! To confirm, are you saying that $0 \le \theta$ because this circle lies in the upper half of the $xy-$ plane? – Timere Apr 11 '14 at 15:21
Would you please respond in your answer (and not as a comment)? – Timere Apr 11 '14 at 15:27

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