# Let $X$ be the number of aces and $Y$ be the number of spades. Show that $X$, $Y$ are uncorrelated.

A deck of 52 cards is shuffled, and we deal a bridge of 13 cards. Let $X$ be the number of aces and $Y$ be the number of spades. Show that $X$, $Y$ are uncorrelated.

Here is what I did:

$Cov(X,Y) = E[XY]-E[X]E[Y]$

uncorrelated means $Cov(X,Y) = 0$, hence $E[XY]=E[X]E[Y]$

$E[X] = \sum_{k=0}^{k=4} k \frac{\dbinom{4}{k} \dbinom{48}{13-k}}{\dbinom{52}{13}}$

$E[Y] = \sum_{k=0}^{k=13} k \frac{\dbinom{13}{k} \dbinom{39}{13-k}}{\dbinom{52}{13}}$

Are the summations above correct? and how do I calculate $E[XY]$?

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The sums for $E[X]$ and $E[Y]$ look correct. To get $E[XY]$ we multiply $k\cdot t$ by the probability of $k$ aces and $t$ spades, and sum over the $5\cdot 14=70$ pairs $(k,t)$ with $0 \le k \le 4$ and $0 \le t \le 13.$ If that calculation turns out to be $kt$ multiplied by your density for $k$ times the density for $t$ obtained by replacing $k$ by $t$ in the right side of your $E[Y]$ formula (without the initial $k$ before the binomial fraction), then you are finished, since one may then factor the summand into two factors, one depending only on $k$ and the other only on $t$, making the double sum equal the product $E[X]E[Y]$.

I think the hard part will be actually showing the probability of $k$ aces and $t$ spades is indeed the above product expression.

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sorry, but I still don't understand your hints. Can you give me a calculation formula or something like that for me to start? –  user59036 Mar 24 '13 at 19:42
@user59036 : I have looked at the setup for a valid calculation of $E[XY]$ but it's quite involved and there are a lot of separate cases. One has to keep track of whether the ace of spades is in the hand or not, and also make sure the sum $X+Y$ doesn't conflict with the hand having only 13 cards. I see no simple way to do it. –  coffeemath Mar 24 '13 at 22:26

An argument from logic rather than mathematics.

If you tell me a card is a spade, I gain no improvement in my knowledge that it is an Ace and vice-versa, therefore they are urcorrelated.

Contrast this with telling me if a person is male or female on my knowledge as to if they are a mother or a father and vice versa.

hint for the maths

Treat the Ace of spades as a special case, there are therefore 3 other Aces and 12 other spades.

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This argument looks dubious to me. For instance, if I know you have three Aces, then that tells me that you can have at most eleven Spades. Or if I know you have twelve Spades, then that tells me that you must have at most two Aces. What am I missing here? –  TonyK Mar 24 '13 at 12:09
You are looking at this "after the fact". You are posing a different question: given I have 3 Aces, what is my probability of 11 spades. These are indeed correlated BUT it is not the same problem. –  Dale M Mar 24 '13 at 20:00
Put another way, the problem as stated requires the 13cards to be revealed all at once, not one by one. That is why draw and stud poker have different odds. –  Dale M Mar 24 '13 at 20:02