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This is my follow-up question to my own query earlier:

How can I algebraically prove that $2^n - 1$ is not always prime?

Almost half of the answers said that I provided my own proof by giving the counterexample. Although, I was not satisfied through those answers since they didn't provide a complete view of the situation and how there exist algebraic factors.

Is disproving an algebraic statement necessarily the same as introducing a case where it is not true? I agree with Nameless's statement found here, but I am not sure as to how that contributes to a rigorous algebraic proof.

Remark: I agree that I didn't ask for an algebraic proof earlier, but I did expect a better proof.

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A counterexample is not the only way to disprove such a atatement. For example, it's easier to prove that not all real numbers are algebraic than to prove that any particular real number is not algebraic. –  Keith Thompson Dec 23 '12 at 17:04
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The statements that are relevant here are called universal statements (because they involve a universal quantifier). These are the statements of the form "for all foos, statement(foo) is true." Many things you will be asked to prove in mathematics are universal statements, but we are also interested in non-universal statements.

The negation of a universal statement is an existential statement (because it involves an existential quantifier). More precisely, the negation of the universal statement "for all foos, statement(foo) is true" is the existential statement "there exists a foo such that statement(foo) is false."

Disproving a universal statement means proving its negation, which is an existential statement. To prove an existential statement, it is sufficient to provide a single example. This is more or less what an existential statement means. That is, if I want to prove that there exists a foo such that statement(foo) is false, all I have to do is find one and show it to you.

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When I read this I thought Qiaochu was making a mistake, because he says that the "negation of a universal statement is an existential statement". Better: the negation of a universal proposition can be expressed as an existential proposition. So, the negation of "All sheep are white" is not "Some sheep are white", it's "not all sheep are white", which can be rewritten as "some sheep are not white". –  alecmce Dec 22 '12 at 20:03
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+1 I appreciate that you differentiated between couter-examples and universal statements, which looks like what the OP was really interested in. –  Kevin Dec 23 '12 at 2:48
    
Yes, I liked this post a lot. :) –  Parth Kohli Dec 28 '12 at 3:39
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I'd like to add a small remark to the other (excellent) answers, because it touches on what I think is the source of your discomfort with the proof by counterexample. As already noted, the negation of a universally quantified formula is logically equivalent to the existentially quantified negated formula. And explicitly providing an example is one way to prove an existential statement. (So the following is not specific to counterexamples.)

The key point here is that for this it is not enough to just give an object ("$n=4$"), but one needs to prove that this object indeed has the desired properties ("Then $2 ^4-1 = 15$ is not prime, since it is divisible by $3$"). The elementary nature of this concrete example (and some of the language used when talking about a proof by (counter)example) can hide this, but it is what makes it a proof (and can in fact be quite involved).

(And if I am allowed to give some advice: If asked for an example - especially on a test, - never just state one, but always explain why it is one, even if it just takes a half-sentence.)

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An existential statement is proved by an example, not a counterexample. Your whole answer is a bit fuzzy about when you're talking about the universal claim, and when you are talking about the existential inverse of the universal claim. –  Ben Voigt Dec 22 '12 at 16:22
    
@BenVoigt - Fair enough; the point about the negation of a universally quantified formula being the existentially quantified negated formula having been already made, I wanted to address why giving an example can count as a proof at all (since in my experience, this is what students are often uncomfortable with). I'll edit the answer to make that clearer. –  Christian Clason Dec 23 '12 at 10:44
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As an addendum to the other answers, I wanted to point out that theorems of the form

If $P(x)$, then $Q(x)$

are usually implicit universal assertions of the sort “for all $x$, if $P(x)$, then $Q(x)$”.

So, to prove an implication is not a theorem, it suffices to find a counter-example: a single object $x$ for which “if $P(x)$ then $Q(x)$” is not true, which is equivalent to saying that “$P(x)$ is true but $Q(x)$ is false”.

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As I said before, a counterexample is enough to disprove a statement. This is because of the equivalency $$\neg (\forall n\in \mathbb{N})(2^n-1\in \mathbb{P})\iff (\exists n\in \mathbb{N})\neg (2^n-1\in \mathbb{P})\iff (\exists n\in \mathbb{N})(2^n-1\notin \mathbb{P})$$ Now, if you had asked "when is $2^n-1$ prime" things would be very different

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Yes, a single counterexample is a rigorous proof that an assertion is false. One can often say more, of course: it might be possible, for instance, to exhibit a whole class of counterexamples, or even to show exactly when the assertion is true and when it’s false. It might be possible to show that if the hypotheses are strengthened slightly, the assertion is true. But all it takes to refute the assertion is one counterexample.

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To show that a statement about all objects of a certain kind is not true, it suffices to give a counter-example. For example, to show that all boys have names John is not true, it suffices to show that there is a boy named Jack.

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+1 Simple and sweet :) –  Parth Kohli Dec 22 '12 at 11:32
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Generally statements of the form "$2^n-1$ is always a prime" are translated to "$\forall n\in\mathbb N: 2^n-1$ is a prime".

To show that a statement of the form $\forall x\varphi(x)$ is false it is enough to show one counterexample. That is we prove the negation of the statement, which translates to $\exists x\lnot\varphi(x)$. To prove that there is some number with property $\lnot\varphi(x)$ it is enough to exhibit one which does.

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+1 Love it! :-) –  Parth Kohli Dec 22 '12 at 11:35
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