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Let $\pi: X \times Y \to X$ be a projection map where $Y$ is compact. Prove that $\pi$ is a closed map.

  • First I would like to see a proof of this claim.

  • I want to know that here why compactness is necessary or do we have any other weaker condition other than compactness for the same result to hold.

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There is a standard example for why some hypothesis on $Y$ is necessary: let $X=Y=\mathbb R$, and consider the closed subset $F=\{(x,y)\in \mathbb R\times\mathbb R:xy=1\}\subset\mathbb R\times\mathbb R$. What is its projection to the first factor?

In fact, one can prove that a space $Y$ is compact iff for all spaces $X$ the projection $X\times Y\to X$ is closed. So while compactness is not necessary (I think...) for the closedness of the projection for one $X$, it is necessary if you want all such projections to be closed.

As for the proof you want in the first bullet point... this is a standard exercise in topology: what have you tried?

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And to see that compactness isn't necessary for closedness of the projection for one $X$, let $X$ be discrete with 0 or more points. –  Jonas Meyer Feb 18 '11 at 19:31
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Heh. The empty space makes for a great example :) –  Mariano Suárez-Alvarez Feb 18 '11 at 19:34

It is also possible to get $p_X :X\times Y\rightarrow X$ to be closed if $X$ is first countable and $Y$ is countably compact. In fact, $p_X :X\times [0,1]\rightarrow X$ is closed if and only if $X$ is countably compact.

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I'll add a proof using nets. I think that nets are often useful, since we have good intuition about sequences in metric spaces and many things work very similarly for nets in general topological spaces. (For example, we know that a metric space is compact if and only if every sequence has a convergent subsequence. If we work with topological spaces, we have a similar characterization with nets: A topological space is compact if and only if every net has a convergent subnet.)

Proof. Let $C$ be a closed subset of $X\times Y$. We want to show that $\pi[C]$ is a closed subset of $X$.

Let $(x_d)_{d\in D}$ be a net in $X$ such that each $x_d$ belongs to $\pi[C]$ and $x=\lim_{d\in D} x_d$. We want to show that $x\in\pi[C]$.

Since $x_d\in\pi[C]$, we can choose (for each $d\in D$) a point $y_d\in Y$ such that $(x_d,y_d)\in C$. Now $(y_d)_{d\in D}$ has a convergent subnet $(y_e)_{e\in E}$. (This follows from compactness of $Y$.) This means that there is an $y\in Y$ such that $y=\lim_{e\in E} y_e$.

Now we have $\lim_{e\in E} x_e = x$ and $\lim_{e\in E} y_e = y$, which implies that $\lim_{e\in E} (x_e,y_e)=(x,y)$ and $(x,y)\in C$. Therefore $x\in\pi[C]$. $\hspace{2cm}\square$


Kuratowski's theorem says that this property in fact characterizes compact spaces. Proof can be found in Engelking's book (Theorem 3.1.16) or in Henno Brandsma's post. Eric Auld asked in his comment whether this can be shown using nets. It seems that a very similar idea as in the proof using filters works also for nets, see my proof below.

I should mention that I have previously posted here a longer proof which turned out to be incorrect. (You can find it by checking revision history, if you are interested.) Luckily, Eric Auld caught the mistake

If $p_Y \colon X\times Y\to Y$ is closed for every $Y$, then $X$ is compact.

Let $D$ be a directed set and $(x_d)_{d\in D}$ be a net in $X$.

We can topologize $Y=D\cup\{\infty\}$, where $\infty\notin D$, in a natural way: All points of $D$ will be isolated. Basic neighborhoods of $\infty$ are the sets of the form $\{\infty\}\cup\{x_d; d\ge d_0\}$ for $d_0\in D$. (The reason that this seems to be relatively natural choice is that $x_d$ converges to $x$ in $X$ if and only if $(x_d,d)$ converges to $(x,\infty)$ in $X\times Y$.)

We want to show that the net $(x_d)_{d\in D}$ has a cluster point. Let us denote $A=\{(x_d,x); d\in D\}$. Since the map $p_Y$ is closed, we have $\infty\in p_Y[\overline A]$. This means that there is an $x\in X$ such that $(x,\infty)\in\overline A$.

Notice that basic neighborhoods of the point $(x,\infty)$ are of the form $$U\times \{d\in D; d\ge d_0\}$$ where $d_0\in D$ and $U$ is an neighborhood of $x$.

Since every set of this form has nonempty intersection with $A$ we get that for each neighborhood $U$ of $x$ and for each $d_0$ there exists $d\ge d_0$ such that $x_d\in U$. Hence $x$ is a cluster point of the net $(x_d)_{d\in D}$. $\hspace{2cm}\square$

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Would love to see a proof of the converse with nets, since the filters one above is a little harder for me at this point. –  Eric Auld May 28 at 2:54
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By the converse you mean Kuratowski's theorem? (I.e., the result that closedness of the projection characterizes compact spaces.) –  Martin Sleziak May 28 at 5:12
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BTW the proof of Kuratowski's theorem in Engleking (Theorem 3.1.16) does not use filters. Although it is very similar to Henno Brandsma's proof, so you will probably find that they are essentially the same. –  Martin Sleziak May 28 at 5:18
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@EricAuld I have tried to give a prove using nets. I hope I did not make some mistakes there. –  Martin Sleziak May 28 at 13:02
    
Can you explain why $\bigcap \limits _{d \in D} p_Y[\overline{A_d}] = p_Y[\bigcap\limits _{d \in D} \overline{A_d}]$? –  Eric Auld Jun 27 at 4:43

This proof is adapted from this lecture note. It is interesting to figure out that this statement is actually a reformulation of The Tube Lemma.

Let $C$ be a closed subset of $X \times Y$, we want to show that $\pi_{1}(C) \subset X$ is closed. To this end, we take any point $x \notin \pi_1(C)$ and show that there exists a neighborhood of $x$ which is disjoint from $\pi_1(C)$.

Since $x \notin \pi_1(C)$, the slice $\{ x \} \times Y$ is disjoint from $C$. Because $Y$ is compact, by The Tube Lemma (replace open with closed and contain with disjoint, respectively), there is a neighborhood $W$ of $x$ such that the whole tube $W \times Y$ is disjoint from $C$. Therefore, $W$ is the neighborhood of $x$ which is disjoint from $\pi_1(C)$, as desired.

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Suppose $Z \subset X \times Y$ is closed, and suppose $x_0 \in X \setminus \pi[Z]$. For any $y \in Y, (x_0, y) \notin Z$, and as $Z$ is closed we find a basic open subset $U(y) \times V(y)$ of $X \times Y$ that contains $(x_0, y)$ and misses $Z$. The $V(y)$ cover $Y$, so finitely many of them cover $Y$ by compactness, say $V(y_1),\ldots,V(y_n)$ do. Now define $U = \cap_{i=1}^{n} U(y_i)$, and note that $U$ is an open neighbourhood of $x_0$ that misses $\pi[Z]$. So $\pi[Z]$ is closed.

To see that the closed projection property implies compactness (sketch): suppose $X$ has the closed projection property along $X$, and let $\cal{F}$ be a filter on $X$. Define a space $Y$ that is as a set $X \cup \{\ast\}, \ast \notin X$, where $X$ has the discrete topology and a neighbourhood of $\ast$ is of the form $A \cup \{\ast\}$ with $A \in \cal{F}$. Then $D = \{(x,x): x \in X\}$ is a subset $X \times Y$ and closedness of the projection $p: X \times Y \rightarrow Y$ implies that some point $(x,\ast)$ is in its closure, and this $x$ is an adherence point of the filter.

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Why does $U$ misses $\pi [Z]$ ? –  user123733 Mar 22 at 13:57
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Suppose $U$ intersects $\pi[Z]$, say $x = \pi(x,y) \in U$, where $(x,y) \in Z$. Then $y \in V(y_i)$ for some $y_i$, and as $x \in U$, $x \in U(y_i)$ as well ($U$ is the intersection). But then $(x,y) \in (U(y_i) \times V(y_i)) \cap Z$, contrary to how to they were chosen disjoint from $Z$. –  Henno Brandsma Mar 22 at 15:21
    
Thanks , I figured it out –  user123733 Mar 22 at 15:23
    
Beautiful proof of the reverse implication. This reminds me somewhat of a one point compactification of X, and indeed if X were locally compact Hausdorff I believe we could have done something similar with the one point compactification. Do you know of anywhere else where this style of argument occurs? –  Eric Auld May 29 at 10:11
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@EricAuld Note that $Y$ has the discrete topology on the set $X$, so it's quite different from a compactification of $X$ ($X$ does not embed in it). It's a custom (ultra)filter space for the filter $\mathcal{F}$ in question, and these are used in arguments frequently, that I have seen. –  Henno Brandsma May 29 at 13:58

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