Take the 2-minute tour ×
Mathematics Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for people studying math at any level and professionals in related fields. It's 100% free, no registration required.

Physicist here. I am puzzled by a question: looking at a continuous function $g :\mathbb{R} \rightarrow \mathbb{R}$ that goes to zero at infinity, I am interested in the behavior of its derivative $\beta = g'$. Precisely, does it go to zero too? By writing on paper it looks like: $$ \beta(+ \infty)=\text{lim}_{x\rightarrow \infty}\text{lim}_{h\rightarrow 0} \frac{g(x+h)-g(x)}{h}$$ And if I can invert the two limits, I get what I expect: $\beta(+\infty)=0$, so I was curious about the hypothesis behind this permutation. Is the requirement of continuity enough? Thanks.

share|improve this question
    
Dear toot, since you are a physicist, you should just draw the graph of a damped sinusoid, the kind that occurs in the mechanics of springs . Even I, who am no physicist, would do that: no need for explicit formulae! –  Georges Elencwajg Oct 11 '12 at 17:43
add comment

2 Answers

up vote 8 down vote accepted

No, a counterexample is $$ \begin{eqnarray} g(x) &=& \frac{\sin(x^2)}{x} \text{,} \\ g'(x) &=& 2\cos(x^2) - \frac{\sin(x^2)}{x^2} \end{eqnarray} $$ $g$ obviously goes to zero as $x \to \infty$ but $g'(x)$ doesn't. In general, you need uniform convergence of the inner limit with respect to the outer one to swap the two. In the case of this counterexample, you don't have that.

(Technically, my counterexample is continuous only on $\mathbb{R}\setminus\{0\}$, but since you're interested only in $g$'s asymptotic behaviour, that doesn't really matter. You can obviously make it continuous on the whole real line by adjusting it on some interval around $0$, which won't change the asymptotic behaviour at all)

share|improve this answer
add comment

No, it isn't enough. Let's consider \[ g(x) = \frac{\sin(e^x)}{1 + x^2} \] which goes to zero at infinity, but it's derivative \[ g'(x) = \frac{e^x\cos(e^x)(1+x^2) - 2x\sin(e^x)}{(1 + x^2)^2} \] doesn't.

share|improve this answer
add comment

Your Answer

 
discard

By posting your answer, you agree to the privacy policy and terms of service.

Not the answer you're looking for? Browse other questions tagged or ask your own question.