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Say we have a square $ABCD$. Put points $E$ and $F$ on sides $AB$ and $BC$ respectively, so that $BE = BF$. Let $BN$ be the altitude in triangle $BCE$. What is $\angle DNF$?

I'm inclined to say that it's a right angle because that's what it looks like from what I've drawn, but I have no idea how to proceed.

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I have given an argument why your conjecture is true. I am more interested in why you looked at this problem and how you came up with this neat little conjecture. – user17762 Jun 5 '12 at 5:29
If you want a purely Euclidean-geometry proof, you might start by noting the similarity of triangles $EBC$, $ENB$, and $BNC$, and then trying to prove that triangles $BNF$ and $CND$ are similar. I'm not sure exactly how the proof will go, but it feels doable. – Rahul Jun 5 '12 at 5:32
@Marvis I'm in a 2nd year geometry course, and this is part of my homework due on Friday. I'm being a keener and getting it done early :) I just guessed on the right angle part. – Charlie Jun 5 '12 at 5:46
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$\angle DNF = 90^\circ \Longleftrightarrow \angle BNF = \angle CND$. It suffics to prove that $\triangle BNF \sim \triangle CND$. Well, it's trivial: $\angle NBF = \angle BEC = \angle NCD$ and $\displaystyle \frac{NB}{BF} = \frac{NB}{BE} = \sin\angle NEB = \cos\angle NCB = \frac{NC}{CB} = \frac{NC}{CD}$. Q.E.D

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That $NB/BE = NC/CB$ follows from the similarity of right triangles $ENB$ and $BNC$ without need for trigonometry. Nice proof! – Rahul Jun 5 '12 at 7:16
@RahulNarain Trigonometry is an abbreviation of similiar triangles here because we don't use angle transformation formulas such as $\sin(\alpha+\beta)=\cdots$. – Frank Science Jun 5 '12 at 7:20
Indeed; what I meant to say was that the use of trigonometric notation is not needed. It suggests that more powerful machinery is being employed than actually is. – Rahul Jun 5 '12 at 9:12

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Firstly We can write
(1) Oklid relation from $\triangle CNB$


(2) Pisagor relation from $\triangle DPN$


(3) Pisagor relation from $\triangle FRN$


(4) Pisagor relation from $\triangle DCF$


if DNF triange is a right triangle,It must satisfy $a^2+b^2=c^2$.








This result is equal to the rates of thales formula for similar triangles $\triangle CRN \sim \triangle CBE$

Thus $a^2+b^2=c^2$ is correct for $\triangle DNF$ .

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Let us do it through coordinate geometry. Let $B$ be the origin. Lets fix the coordinates first. $$A = (0,a)\\ B = (0,0) \\ C = (a,0)\\ D = (a,a)$$ Since $E$ and $F$ are equidistant from $B$, lets say $$F = (b,0)\\ E = (0,b)$$ where $0 \leq b \leq a$. The equation of the line $CE$ is $\dfrac{x}{a} + \dfrac{y}{b} = 1$. The equation of $BN$ is $y = \dfrac{a}{b}x$. This gives us the coordinate of $N$ as $\left( \dfrac{ab^2}{a^2 + b^2},\dfrac{a^2b}{a^2 + b^2} \right)$.

The slope of $FN$ is $m_1 = \dfrac{a^2b/(a^2+b^2) - 0}{ab^2/(a^2+b^2)-b} = \dfrac{a^2}{ab - a^2 - b^2}$.

The slope of $DN$ is $m_2 = \dfrac{a^2b/(a^2+b^2) - a}{ab^2/(a^2+b^2)-a} = \dfrac{ab - a^2 - b^2}{b^2 - a^2 - b^2} = - \left(\dfrac{ab-a^2-b^2}{a^2} \right)$.

Hence, the product of the slopes is $m_1m_2 = -1$. Hence your conjecture is indeed correct. I am waiting for someone to post a nicer geometric argument.

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HINT: Try to resort to Homothetic transformation and you're done immediately. Another way is to connect $N$ to the middle of the $DF$ (let's call that point $M$) and prove that you have there $NM$=$DM$=$MF$ (here you may resort to Apollonius' theorem). You also could resort to the cyclic quadrilaterals as another approaching way.

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