# Example where $\operatorname{grade}(I,M)>\operatorname{height} I$

Let $I$ be an ideal of a noetherian ring $R$ and let $M$ be a finite $R$-module. We need to show if $I$ is generated by $n$ elements, then $\operatorname{grade}(I,M)\le n$. Could any one give an example where $\operatorname{grade}(I,M)>\operatorname{height} I$?

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Let $R$ be a Noetherian ring, and $I$ a proper ideal and let $gr(I)=n$ then, there is an $R$-sequence $x_1,\cdots, x_n$ in $I$ with $ht(x_1,\cdots,x_n)=n.$ Now, since $(x_1,\cdots,x_n) \subseteq I,$ therefore, $n=ht(x_1,\cdots,x_n) \leq ht(I).$ I think, you want an example with strict inequality, i.e. $gr(I) < ht(I),$ right? –  Ehsan M. Kermani May 14 '12 at 17:52
yess I wanted that –  La Belle Noiseuse May 15 '12 at 9:10
So please edit your question. –  Ehsan M. Kermani May 15 '12 at 16:14

First, let $R$ be a Noetherian ring, and $I$ a proper ideal and let $gr(I)=k$ then, there is an $R$-sequence $x_1,\cdots,x_k$ in $I$ with $ht(x_1,⋯,x_k)=k.$ Now, since $(x_1,\cdots,x_k)\subseteq I,$ therefore, $k=ht(x_1,\cdots,x_k)\leq ht(I).$ Now, if $I$ is generated by $n$ elements, by Krull's height theorem, $gr(I) \leq ht(I) \leq n.$

To have the strict inequality, define $R=k[x,y]/(x^2,xy)$ where $k$ is a field and $I=(x,y)/(x^2,xy).$ Show that $I \subseteq Z_R(R)$ where $Z_R(R)$ is the set of all zero-divisors in $R,$ implying that $gr(I)=0,$ however, $(x)/(x^2,xy) \subsetneq I$ implies that $ht(I) \geq 1.$ (In fact, $ht(I)=1$.)

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I can't see any connection between this answer and the posted problem! –  user26857 May 25 '12 at 22:28
At least, the OP has found one! if you look at the comments above, you will realize that I have answered the question which earlier I asked the OP to clarify and modify it, if it's necessary, though nothing has happened! –  Ehsan M. Kermani May 26 '12 at 10:06
Actually the above comments show that you were the first who misunderstood the problem and then the OP. –  user26857 May 27 '12 at 21:27

This is basically the exercise 1.2.22 from Bruns and Herzog, Cohen-Macaulay Rings. In order to prove that $\operatorname{grade}(I,M)\le n$, show first that $\operatorname{grade}(I,M)\le \operatorname{height}(IR^*)$, where $R^*=R/\operatorname{Ann}M$. This is not difficult and involves few reductions: first we may assume that $\operatorname{Ann}(M)=0$. Then we can take $I$ to be a prime ideal (denoted by $\mathfrak{p}$) and localize at $\mathfrak{p}$: $\operatorname{grade}(\mathfrak{p},M)$ eventually increases, $\operatorname{height}(\mathfrak{p})$ remains the same and $\operatorname{Ann}_{R_{\mathfrak{p}}}M_{\mathfrak{p}}=0$. Now the inequality is obvious (see, for instance, Proposition 1.2.12 from the same book). Since the ideal $IR^*$ is also generated by $n$ elements, its height is $\le n$.

The required example can be: $R$ a local Noetherian ring, $\mathfrak{p},\mathfrak{q}$ minimal prime ideals such that $\mathfrak{p}\neq \mathfrak{q}$ and $\mathfrak{p}\cap \mathfrak{q}=(0)$, $I=\mathfrak{p}$ and $M=R/\mathfrak{q}$. Then $\operatorname{height}(I)=0$ and $\operatorname{grade}(I,M)\geq 1$. (A concrete example: $R=K[[X,Y]]/(XY)$.)

Remark. If $I$ is generated by $n$ elements and $\operatorname{grade}(I,M)=n$, then $I$ can be generated by $n$ elements that form an $M$-regular sequence.

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Could you explain your example?more –  Angel Dec 26 '12 at 19:27

This is the exercise 1.2.22 from Bruns-Herzog, Cohen-Macaulay Rings. We prove that $\operatorname{grade}(I,M)≤\operatorname{ht}(I‎\overline{R})$, where $‎\overline{R}‎‎=R/\operatorname{Ann}M$ and $IM\neq M$.

By Prop 1.2.10(a) from the same book we have $\operatorname{grade}(I,M)$ $=$ $\inf\lbrace \operatorname{depth} M_{\mathfrak p}: \mathfrak p\in \operatorname{V}(I)\rbrace$ $=$ $\inf \lbrace \operatorname{depth} M_{\mathfrak p}: \mathfrak p\in \operatorname{Supp}(M)\cap\operatorname{V}(I)\rbrace$ $\leq$ $\inf\lbrace \operatorname{dim} R_{\mathfrak p}: \mathfrak p\in \operatorname{Supp}(M)\cap\operatorname{V}(I)\rbrace$ $=$ $\inf\lbrace \operatorname{ht}\mathfrak p: \mathfrak p\in \operatorname{V}(\operatorname{Ann}(M)+I)\rbrace$ $=$ $\inf \lbrace \operatorname{ht}\left(\frac{\mathfrak p}{\operatorname{Ann}M}\right): \mathfrak p\in \operatorname{V}((I+\operatorname{Ann}M))\rbrace$ $=$ $\operatorname{ht}(\frac{I+\operatorname{Ann}M}{\operatorname{Ann}M})$ $=$ $\operatorname{ht}(I‎\overline{R})$.

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