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Halmos, in Naive Set Theory, on page 19, provides a definition of intersection restricted to subsets of $E$, where $C$ is the collection of the sets intersected. The point is to allow the case where $C$ is $\emptyset$, which with this definition of intersection gives $E$ as the result.

$\{x \in E: x \in X$ for every $X$ in $C\}$

My problem lies in interpreting the sentence. I wanted to read it as:

"Elements x in E, given that: Element x is in X for every X in C"

My brain, tuned by a number of popular programming languages, wants to evaluate the terms in the condition reading from left to right. And clearly, no element $x$ will be in any $X$ if $C$ is $\emptyset$, and if the condition is evaluated to false, $E$ will not be the result of the intersection.

After struggling for a while, I figured that I had to read the sentence as:

"Elements x in E, given that: For all X that are in C, x is in all of them"

The for part of the condition has to be the pivotal one. It has to be the first term you evaluate. In analogy with common programming languages.

Questions:

  1. Is my new reading and conclusion correct?
  2. How does one learn the order of evaluation in set theoretic expressions?

Edit: Corrected after discussion with coldnumber.

Edit 2: Upon rereading the previous chapter, I've found that Halmos actually explains his "for every". The condition "$x \in X$ for every $X$ in $C$" actually means "for all $X$ (if $X \in C$, then $x \in X$)" -- which seems to give an unambiguous order of evaluation.

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What are $X$ and $C$ in the intersection? – coldnumber Jul 20 '15 at 21:48
    
$X$ is a set in $C$, $C$ is the collection of sets being intersected. – David Kristoffersson Jul 20 '15 at 21:50
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The first highlighted statement is mixing English reading of a statement with mathematical notation. The clue for that is that it had to say "for every..."

WHhen you do this, it becomes a bit less clear as to what in order you have to "resolve" the instructions. In this case, because the statement is so short and simple, one has hopes of getting it right.

It would be cleaner if you expressed it in math notation in the first place:

$$S(C) =\{ x \in E : \left( \forall X \subset C : x \in X \right)\}$$

Mpw it becomes clear that to test whether $x$ is in $S(C)$ you have to verify that $x\in E$ and then "try" every possible subset of $C$ and decide of $x$ is in that subset -- and if any of those fail, $x$ is not in $S(C)$.

Now it is very clear that $$S(\emptyset) = E$$

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Aha, so that's how "for every" is supposed to be written. Seems like a lot of it comes down to that the book isn't precise about everything. Your math notation makes perfect sense to me. Except maybe $\forall X \subset C$ should be $\forall X \in C$. You might've read my half-cooked comment before coldnumber corrected me. With that correction, when I evaluate your sentence, the result that is sought comes naturally. Is the meaning equivalent to $N = \{x \in E: x \in X \;\forall X \in C\}$ (as coldnumber put it)? – David Kristoffersson Jul 21 '15 at 12:03

maybe think of it this way (remembering that your sets $X$ belong to some universe which is not to be identified with the collection $C$). to avoid confusion i use the bound variable $y$ for the universally quantified statement (in place of your $X$): $$ \{x: (x \in E) \land \forall y (y \in C \Rightarrow x \in y)\} $$

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Looking at the book, I see that $C$ is a collection of subsets of $E$, and the definition in your question is the intersection of all the elements of $C$. Note that a subset $X$ of $E$ is not a subset of $C$; it is an element of $C$.

Your initial reading is correct. The set $N=\{x \in E: x \in X$ for all $X \in C\}$ contains the elements of $E$ that are in every $X \subset E$ that is an element of $C$.

This means that if, for example, if $E=\{a,b\}$ and $C = \{\{a\}, E\}$, then $N = \{a\}$

On the other hand, if $E=\{a,b\}$ and $C = \{\varnothing, \{a\}, E\}$, then $N = \varnothing$, because $\varnothing$ contains no element of $E$.

Or if $C = \{\{b\} \{a\}, E\}$, then $N =\varnothing$, because there is no element of $E$ that is in both $\{a\}$ and $\{b\}$.

In general, $N =\varnothing$ when $C$ contains subsets of $E$ that are disjoint.


EDIT: Now, if $C = \varnothing$, and we look for $N = \{x \in E: x \in X \;\forall X \in C\}$, it follows that $N=E$, because to find an element $x$ of $E$ that does not satisfy the condition "$x \in X \; \forall X \in \varnothing$" we would have to find an element $X \in \varnothing$ that does not contain $x$, which is impossible, so every $x \in E$ satisfies the condition.

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Good point that $X$ is an element of $C$. Further: Re-reading, and a bit confused now. Halmos seems to be discussing the case where $C$ is $\emptyset$. This is something you can't even express with $\cap$ as it's a binary operator, right? – David Kristoffersson Jul 20 '15 at 22:27
    
Yes, if $C=\{X_i\}$, then you can write $\bigcap X_i$ for the intersection, but if $C =\varnothing$ then there are no $X_i$ for the intersection, so the intersection cannot be expressed in that way. That's why he defined it as $\{x \in E: x \in X$ for all $X \in C\}$, to be able to use the fact that no $x$ fails to satisfy the condition "$x \in X$ for all $X \in \varnothing$". – coldnumber Jul 20 '15 at 22:32
    
Okay! I updated the question. But still, the main conundrum remains. If I read $N = \{x \in E: x \in X \;\forall X \in C\}$ with $\emptyset$ for $C$, I want to evaluate the condition to "false", and thus the overall result to $\emptyset$. If you look at Mark Fischler's answer, he's provided another math notation for the statement, where he places $\forall$ at the start of the condition, nested an additional condition within the first and added parentheses for clarity. That way, I find the evaluation order congruous with evaluating the condition to "true", and thus the result to $E$. – David Kristoffersson Jul 21 '15 at 12:06
    
I think it's cleared up now, "Edit 2" in original question. – David Kristoffersson Jul 21 '15 at 21:30
    
I'm glad his notation makes sense to you; I'm not sure of how I'd read the ":" after "$\forall X \subset C$", since it doesn't make a lot of sense to read it as "such that" . I personally prefer David Holden's notation because with it you can claim that the statement "$y\in C \implies x\in y$" is true vacuously because "$y\in C$" is always false for $C=\varnothing$, so with $C=\varnothing$ the only thing you need to check is that $x \in E$. – coldnumber Jul 21 '15 at 23:01

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