# what is difference between the square of an operator and the expectation value of that operator

operator $\hat A$ is a mathematical rule that when applied to a ket $\hat A|\phi\rangle$ transforms it into another ket $\hat A|\phi '\rangle$ and too for bra.

$\langle \phi| \hat A|\phi\rangle$ for short $\langle\hat A\rangle$

1. what is the square of item $\langle\hat A\rangle^2$ ?
2. what is the expectation value item $\langle\hat A^2\rangle$?
3. what is difference between them$\Delta A=\sqrt{\langle\hat A^2\rangle-\langle\hat A\rangle^2}$?
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Is this a question about mathematics, or about understanding quantum mechanics? If mathematics, then what kind of answer to "what is ..." do you expect? The expressions are what they are -- which other description than that do you imagine getting? – Henning Makholm Apr 22 '12 at 11:36
The point is I don't think there is any explanation that doesn't just repeat the expression you want explained. $\langle \hat A\rangle^2$ is the number $\langle \hat A\rangle$ multiplied by itself. That seems to be all there is to say about it, absent any knowledge of $\hat A$ or $\phi$. – Henning Makholm Apr 22 '12 at 16:08
You need mathematical proof of what? "Multiplied by itself" is what "$^2$" means. That's not a matter of proof, it is just how the notation works. – Henning Makholm Apr 22 '12 at 16:16
Well, if we take $\hat A$ to be the identity operator on $\mathbb R^1$ and $\phi$ to be $2$, then $\langle \phi|\hat A|\phi\rangle^2=16$ but $\langle \phi|\hat A^2|\phi\rangle=4$. That looks pretty different. – Henning Makholm Apr 22 '12 at 16:22
$1$ is a perfectly cromulent complex number! – Henning Makholm Apr 22 '12 at 16:29

Uncertainty Relation Between Two Operators

An interesting application of the commutator algebra is to derive a general relation giving the uncertainties product of two operator $\hat A$ and $\hat B$

if $\langle\hat A\rangle$ and $\langle\hat B\rangle$ be the expectation valus of to hermitian operators $\hat A$ and $\hat B$ with respect to a normalized state vector $|\psi\rangle$. that is, $\langle \psi| \hat A|\psi\rangle=\langle\hat A\rangle$ and $\langle \psi| \hat B|\psi\rangle=\langle\hat B\rangle$

The uncertainties $\delta A$ and $\delta B$ are defined by:

$$\delta A=\sqrt {\langle\hat A^2\rangle - \langle\hat A\rangle^2}$$, $$\delta B=\sqrt {\langle\hat B^2\rangle - \langle\hat B\rangle^2}$$, $$\delta A \delta B\ge \frac {1}{2}|\langle [\hat A, \hat B] \rangle|$$

$$\Delta x \Delta p_x \ge \frac {1}{2}|\langle [\hat X, \hat P_x] \rangle|=\frac {1}{2} |\langle i\hbar \hat I \rangle|=\frac {1}{2} \hbar$$