# cardinality of subset and entropy [closed]

(edited) I am considering the problem about the cardinality of a proper subset, $A\subset\{0,1\}^d$ where $d$ is an integer. Of course, $|A|<2^d$. I am wondering if there is a tighter bound for it. As suggested by Ashok, I suspect the subset cardinality has some thing to do with the entropy, $H(p^*)$ , where $P^*=\sum _{x\in A}P(x)$, and $P(x)$ is the (empirical distribution) type of x. Maybe be the form of $|A|<2^{d*H(P^*)}$, which is similar to the form suggested by Ashok,

any idea will be appreciated. Thanks

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It doesn't make any sense when you write $P^*=\sum _{x\in A}P(x)$. What do we know about $A$? If $A$ is set of all sequences of a particular type $P$, then $|A|\le 2^{nH(P)}$. – Ashok Mar 1 '12 at 6:53
I think that [cardinals] is aimed to infinite cardinals sort of questions. – Asaf Karagila Mar 1 '12 at 8:38
$A$ is a general subset of the d-dimensional binary set. We know the distribution of each elements in the binary set. Is this sufficient to bound the size of the subset? – johnniac Mar 1 '12 at 16:08
I don't understand. If A is ANY proper subset, then the best estimate without knowing more information is $|A|<2^d$ – you Mar 1 '12 at 17:22
@johnniac: You need to make things clear here. If $P$ is the type of a sequence $x$, then $P$ would be a Prob. distribution on $\{0,1\}$, so what do you mean by $P(x)$, for $x\in A$? – Ashok Mar 2 '12 at 6:04

## closed as not a real question by Asaf Karagila, Micah, Brandon Carter, Calvin Lin, NorbertJan 30 at 7:30

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I can only think about the cardinality of the typical set $A_\epsilon^{(d)}$ with respect to your distribution on the random variable $X$. If that is what you mean, then it is well known that: $$2^{n(H(X)+\epsilon)}\geq |A_\epsilon^{(d)}|\geq (1-\epsilon)2^{n(H(X)-\epsilon)}$$