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I am given the following exercise:

Let $X_{\alpha}$ be a measureable space with $\sigma$-algebra $M_{\alpha}$ , mark $X\triangleq{\displaystyle \prod_{\alpha\in A}X_{\alpha}}$ and $\pi_{\alpha}:X\rightarrow X_{\alpha}$ .

define $\otimes_{\alpha\in A}M_{\alpha}$ as the $\sigma$-algebra that is created from sets of form $\pi_{\alpha}^{-1}\left(E_{\alpha}\right)$ where $E_{\alpha}\in M_{\alpha}$

Part 1 of the question asked to prove that if $A$ is countable then $\otimes_{\alpha}M_{\alpha}$ is created by sets of form ${\displaystyle \prod_{\alpha\in A}E_{\alpha}}$ where $E_{\alpha}\in M_{\alpha}$ .

Given a topological space $X$ denote the Borel's $\sigma$ -algebra on $X$ by $\mathcal{B}_{X}$

Consider $X_{1},\dots,X_{n}$ metric spaces and define $X=X_{1}\times\dots \times X_{n}$

Now the question asks:

a) Prove $\otimes_{i=1}^{i=n}\mathcal{B}_{X_{i}}\subseteq\mathcal{B}_{X}$.

b) Assume each $X_{i}$ is separable and prove $\otimes_{i=1}^{i=n}\mathcal{B}_{X_{i}}=\mathcal{B}_{X}$.

I am having some problems with this question, mainly because I don't have a strong memory of what the product topology is exactly (I have a definition near me and so I am trying to work with that).

For $a$ I want to start with some element of the form $\Pi_{\alpha}E_{\alpha}$and prove that it is an element of $\mathcal{B}_{x}$ but to be honest, I am not completely sure how $\mathcal{B}_{X}$ looks like - how does the open set in $X$ look like and why something of the form $\Pi_{\alpha}E_{\alpha}$ (or $\pi^{-1}(E_{\alpha})$) is such a set.

After I understand $a$ I hope I will have an idea for $b$

I would really appreciate the help!

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  • $\begingroup$ I don't think b) is true in general. For a simple counterexample, take $X=X_1=X_2$ an uncountable space with particular point topology. Then the Borel algebra will be the entire space in each space as well as the product, but the product algebra will not contain the diagonal $\Delta=\{(x,x) \vert x\in X\}$. For a Hausdorff counterexample, take for $X$ the Niemytzki plane, the problem will be much the same. You need to assume something more: either that $X_i$ are actually metrizable, or that they are second-countable, I guess. $\endgroup$
    – tomasz
    Nov 7, 2012 at 20:46
  • $\begingroup$ @tomasz - yes, you are correct. thank you for nor noting, it was said that $X$ is a metric space and I didn't notice and thought it was just a topological sapce. sorry! I have edited the question $\endgroup$
    – Belgi
    Nov 7, 2012 at 23:11

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I will give a sketch of proof (it's homework!) in the case $n=2$; it's not hardly adaptable to the general case.

a) For $i\in\{1,2\}$ and $B_i\in\mathcal{B}_{X_i}$, we have $\pi_i^{-1}(B_i)\in\mathcal B_X$, as $\pi_i\colon \mathcal B_X\to \mathcal B_{X_i}$ is assumed to be measurable. Now, to get the result, we use the fact that $\mathcal B_X$ is a $\sigma$-algebra containing the sets of the form $\pi_i^{-1}(B_i), i\in\{1,2\}, B_i\in\mathcal B_{X_i}$.

b) We have to show that $\mathcal{B}_{X_1}\otimes \mathcal{B}_{X_2}$ contains the open subsets of $X_1\times X_2$. It's not hard to see it for open sets of the form $O_1\times O_2$, where $O_i$ is open in $X_i$. Let $\{a_n\}$ and $\{b_n\}$ sequences respectively dense in $X_1$ and $X_2$, and $O\subset X_1\times X_2$ open. Fix $(x_1,x_2)\in O$. We can find open sets $O_i$ such that $(x,y)\in O_1\times O_2\subset O$. If $X_i$ has a countable base of open sets, we are done.

If the space are assumed to be metric, then separability implies that $X_i$ has a countable basis of open sets. But it's not true in general, as tomasz pointed out. Note that separability is needed, otherwise take $X_1=X_2=$ a "big set" with discrete topology.

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    $\begingroup$ How do you derive the Lindelöf property? Actually, I doubt that separability is enough. For instance, if we take $X_1=X_2$ an uncountable space with particular point topology, then I think the Borel algebra will be the entire power set in the spaces as well as the product, but I doubt the product algebra will contain the diagonal of the product. $\endgroup$
    – tomasz
    Nov 7, 2012 at 19:59
  • $\begingroup$ What do you mean by "particular point topology"? $\endgroup$ Nov 7, 2012 at 20:01
  • $\begingroup$ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Particular_point_topology $\endgroup$
    – tomasz
    Nov 7, 2012 at 20:03
  • $\begingroup$ You are right, I assumed the spaces with a topology coming from a metric. $\endgroup$ Nov 7, 2012 at 20:38
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For (a) note that the product topology on $\prod_{i=1}^n X_i$ is generated by "open cubes", that is sets of the form $\prod_{i=1}^n U_i$ where each $U_i \subseteq X_i$ is open. As $n=2$ suffices by induction. Let now $U \subseteq X_1$ open and look at $\{V \subseteq X_2 \mid U \times V \in \mathcal B_X\}$. By the open, this contains all open sets. Now show it's a $\sigma$-algebra. Now let $V \in \mathcal B_{X_2}$ and consider $\{ U\subseteq X_1 \mid U \times V \in \mathcal B_X\}$. We know that this contains all open $U$. Now conclude.

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